Yeah, it’s hard being able to see patterns and recognize them.
That said, do you disagree that what deck you play, what deck your opponent plays versus your deck, and draw/discover luck are more impactful than skill? How much of the game would you say is decided by skill?
It’s usually selfishness playing tricks on us. There’s a test question that helps a little, “do I ever think the game is rigged if I …WIN?”.
Kind of. At this point when I win, I just feel that the game decided that I was going to be more lucky than my opponent that game. I generally do not feel that a decision that I made is what gave me a victory. Either I got a good matchup, or I drew/discovered better.
I know that some will claim it’s rigged when they lose in absurd ways, or many times in a row. But I’ve experienced unthinkable luck several games in a row, and unbelievable bad luck several games in a row.
After at least 16,000 games, I’ve simply come to wonder how legitimately random are the randomness factors in the game? With that thought in mind and with that many games under my belt I don’t feel like something as simple as “just an MMR system” explains things; especially when there are such impactful randomness factors at play.
Ive been F2p and this season I bought the battle and tavernpass, there is no difference between having paid or playing for free. That’s my experience.
If you concede or if you do bad plays or if you get sad and quit the game, you will lose by ~100% so it’s not the game deciding in those cases but your side.
If you play perfectly you still shouldn’t win by 100%; some decks have counters; the opponent may also play perfectly so randomness will decide etc.
0$ since the game dropped. I did spend a some of my WoW gold on maybe 100$ in packs many many years ago.
Ya, I did that (back in 2016?). I converted WoW gold into coins to buy over a thousand HS packs. I still have access to 70k dust worth of duplicates from that.
I could have gotten more but decided to get a Long Boi instead lol.
It’s my stern contention that conspiracy theorists have never once been in a position where they were responsible for a group project. Of any kind, let alone one requiring discretion.
Just getting FOUR other people to complete their designated tasks toward something as trivial as a surprise birthday party, on time and without blabbing, is a herculean improbability. And yet, something something “the whole government is covering it up.” Like, Effen-eh, have these people SEEN a state-run job site? It takes weeks to get through the red tape required just to block off the sidewalk. Never mind fixing the pothole.
I think if I play a deck comprising nothing but literal 10 costs, I am profoundly likely to lose every single game I play.
I also think if I play a Tier-1 meta deck that THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of data points specific to my bracket and region call out to be high win rate, then I am profoundly likely to win many games just based on that data alone.
But, my opponent could play like a moron in the former example, and I could play like one in the latter. Skill matters.
Far too much. However I have no one else to spend money on.
I quit Hearthstone in 30.2.2. I lost interest in Standard, and stupid nerfs have taken a toll on Wild.
This ^ sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. 
You jest, but I can prove it. All I need is a chalkine, corkboard, and tons of random newspaper clippings.
Sure, but I never mentioned those cases, nor did I say I was doing that in any capacity.
Everyone misplays at one point or another. I’m not talking about times where I misplay. That’s a at least something you can observe, learn from, and correct.
Obviously, since there are several impactful luck factors in the game.
My main questions are, how much of it truly comes down to luck, and are the random factors of this game truly, impartially, random? The main ones being how your opponent is selected, and your draw/discover luck, as well as “targets chosen randomly/random spell effects”
Or, does the game sometimes forgo what should be impartiality to help push people towards a 50% win rate?
If I purple monkey dishwasher, is that the act of gods, myself, or cucumbers?
Sometimes it really doesn’t matter because a man sees what he sees. Whether or not what he sees reflects truth.
Edit: I created a separate thread for this post, which I am now deleting, because while editing the post, it just disappeared (it wasn’t even searchable to find) and some bug somehow put it into this thread, later).
Anyways I am removing post from here and reposting it elsewhere.
An abstract statement referring to relativism. I suppose that is an answer to the question. You’re implying that there is a truth with that statement as well, but you failed to mention what that truth is.
Of course, it’s uncommon with just that card. Skyla is effectively the same card, but requires a third card to swap costs with. I would say that makes the odds of getting that to happen by turn 4/5 twice as likely, at most.
And I did so intentionally, because in this context, minds are already made. I’m not likely to convince someone the pattern does, or does not, really exist. They’ve already seen, or not, and are simply here to talk about it and seek affirmation or validation.
We take “the pattern” for granted, as just defined. It’s presumed and implied. We’re not asking “is there a pattern.” We’re really stating “I want to understand the pattern.” Humans are remarkably adept at finding patterns where none exist. We seek purpose where none might be.
All of this to say, it doesn’t matter if the game is rigged or not. Your choices are to play, or abstain, in either event.
Or, you know, have conversations along with either option. As lofty as what you’re saying is, and how much or little it applies to the topic; Until they come out and actually show how the code plays out, conversations are all we can have. Implying that the conversations shouldn’t be had since we don’t know just sounds silly.
Do I expect Blizzard to release the code and show how the randomness factors work or execute in real time? No
But at the same time, if you won’t, you should expect conversations like these.
I do find it humorous how people (not you specifically) will try to dismiss or talk down to people bring these types of questions or conversations up.