Prime is maybe semi dead now as you can just pay 1 more now and get yogg box and nobody is maindecking yoggbox. How much do ppl play prime for the 3/2 and how much do they play it for the 5 spells? I am guessing it was mainly for the 5 spells.
Evocation now cannot be generated from wand maker and spellkin which was what they wanted to do. The 2 cost is collateral damage. It was never broken at 1 cost but it was broken when you could easily get 4+ of them. It will still be run in the deck I think so not dead.
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I wouldn’t say it’s dead. You get a body and the spells have a much lower chance of backfiring. With Yoggbox, you have a bigger chance of getting disastrous effects.
Yeah, I agree. The main problem was you RNGing Evocation into hand through other means (discover, card generation). The problem was never the cost, but rather the ways of gaining access to it. Nerfing the mana cost to stop the generation is the wrong way of nerfing it.
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The prime stays because Cram Session. The spells were nice but unreliable, It was frequently used in the hopes of a board clear.
Mage keeps getting nerf after nerf with nothing in return.
Game is dogsh*t right now.
Maybe the next expansion will improve balance and deck diversity, but this is probably wishful thinking.
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they could use a buff …like the ones shaman got but what to buff ?
And among elite players. This witness in tournament play takes it from crusty forum mage troll QQ to a legitimate concern because of where and to whom it happened.
I agree with you, here, very much, at any rate. The tournament stage is a big deal for understanding if something is a meme or broken.
Nerf the fun decks, keep the broken decks. Nice. I was already quitting but this sealed the deal. All the cards in the game are overpowered, game needs to take a step back from OP cards. And wild is horrible so i iwont be going there
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Whats a non RNG Mage deck?
Are the complaints truly from mage being overpowered?
Or is the real issue “It Feels bad to lose to a RNG” Effect.
Keyword RNG!
If you have under 10 health left and mad that you lost to a Solarian or Yogg, something is wrong with you
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Highlander Mage isn’t a clown fiesta with the exception of 3 cards: Prime, Box and Reno. But that’s just 3 cards 2 of them are 10 mana, Prime now 9 mana.
“Tempo” mage feels insufferable to play against because it completely eliminates the concept of counterplay, generating a whole new deck basically. Mage can generate an answer to literally anything: freezing face or the board, clearing the board, locking out spells, burst damage, a freaking ice barrier to save them or mirror images to lock out Sorc. And the opponent cannot plan ahead against mage at all.
Mage just picks an answer or rolls the dice, and Prime, which can be spammed because of studies, has “controlled rng” that favors mage. While the opponent watches them play borderline solitaire.
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It’s a clown fiesta without those all of 3 cards as well. Cyclone Mage, the #1 played deck at all Legend ranks, doesn’t run Reno or Box and runs the Prime only. Evocation was a backbone of the clown fiesta. It’s why Cyclone mage is able to do what it does. It’s why Cyclone Mage runs Wandmaker and Cobalt Spellkin. Primordial Studies piggy backs off this in an attempt to pick up the other part of the clown fiesta - the Prime. Magic Trick and Wand Thief then allow for more piggy backing shenanigans. Yoggbox and Reno aren’t in the deck, yet you can possibly still find Yoggbox with the deck, it’s just not as common. Evocation and Prime are the main suspects. Evocation costing 0 allowed for you to pick up a Yoggbox and drop it if you needed to.
Either way, the real threats of the deck were just nerfed. Yoggbox and Reno are like little sidekicks.
The current meta versions of Highland Mage don’t run Box or Reno anymore.
For example, here’s VS’s most recent recommended list for the archetype:
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/deck-library/mage-decks/highlander-mage/
Yes; because having someone else post a narrative telling you what they believe the article is saying, and telling you what to think is the crucial cornerstone of truly enlightened thinking… lmao
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I’m answering what Mage deck isn’t a clown fiesta, scroll up. Highlander Mage isn’t. Only 3 cards in it are clowny (Reno, Box and Prime) and they’re all expensive.
Scam mage is obviously a turbo clown fiesta through and through, and it’s getting adjusted rightfully.
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Truly your noble crusade against summary or description has saved us all.
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That’s because the meta is too fast and Tempo Mage is a fairly big reason why too.
Highlander can always slot in Box and Reno depending on the meta.
Something just occurred to me. Both decks that were created in this expansion for mage have received sledgehammer nerfs.
So; in effect, Team 5 has given mage nothing in Scholomance. Turtle mage isn’t playable now and now neither is cyclone I would imagine.
It won’t affect me as I didn’t really play either deck but i can’t help wondering if this fact was even considered. For yet another expansion the only viable deck Mage has is the slot machine HL deck that every mage player hates.
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I do what I can:) Keep waiting and someone will probably come along and tell you what to think of this answer too.
Turtle Mage wasn’t a deck that Team 5 created for Mage. They actually mentioned somewhere that it was one of the decks they didn’t see coming.
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But that misses my point. There are no Scholomance decks left.
It’s HL or nothing if these nerfs make Cyclone unable to compete.
Reno, sure, I can see that.
But why would they slot in Box unless they were just a fan of the card to begin with?
The only meta when Box was strong enough to gain a place by its own power was AoO. Before that, it was at best a choice for 29th or 30th card in the deck: close enough to competitive if you enjoyed that sort of card and wanted to use it, but not the best choice you’d have to use if you didn’t.