I’ve started to see a lot of ableist and homophobic “jokes” crop up in world chat. Examples include using “gay” or “autistic” as a pejorative, and comments implying gay people are engaged in nefarious acts which I will not recite on this forum.
I’ve also noted these comments are coming from longtime players with multiple badges, not just “burner” accounts, which implies they may have been getting away with it for some time.
This is creating an unwelcoming environment for marginalized people, please step up the moderation.
Did you guys even use the in-game report to report those people? With enough people reporting them, it should be swift for those people get banned/ suspended.
It is more effective than creating a thread about it here.
Yes, I did. But as I said, these were accounts that had 3 badges on them and therefore had likely been playing for 3 straight months or more. So either this is the first time they’ve said something unsavory about minorities in all the time they’ve played (Which I find unlikely), or they haven’t been punished very severely for their actions.
According to whom? If multiple people are posting bigoted statements in world chat without fear of consequences for their long-standing accounts, I think it’s clear the problem isn’t something that can be solved just by me personally pressing the Report button and calling it a day.
On the EU cluster I play on, one player repeatedly makes entirely TOS-breaching comments in World Chat and is regularly reported for it, seemingly without any action having been taken as they’ve been doing it for a period spanning many months. The last time, a few days ago, the comments went into direct racism and antisemitism. These are things that the End User Licence Agreement / Terms of Use specify can cause immediate and permanent termination of the account and yet that player continues to spam chat every couple of days with this stuff.
The in-game reporting clearly isn’t working if open racism / antisemitism doesn’t even cause a suspension / chat squelch let alone a permanent banning.
Because you can’t post players’ names on here because it is against TOS. No player name = how are they going to take action or even entertain your post?
Sure you can try your luck to witchhunt them here but you may get yourself suspended in the end because you broke the TOS and the person you posted may not even get punished here. So tell me, is it worth it?
We’re complaining that no action is being taken against players that are clearly and repeatedly in direct violation of the EULA / TOS. We don’t need to give the names of the player(s) in question (and we haven’t) in order to complain that they aren’t being punished.
The thread is about Blizzard not enforcing its own rules, not about which specific player is breaking them.
I don’t know about you guys but they did take action against those people in my region. I knew because there were a few offenders’ friends who told us in World Chat that his friend got punished by Blizzard. One of them got muted for a week.
I also received a few messages from the Blizzard team in the past thanking me for reporting those players and the action that had been taken against them.
The point is that there is a player on the server cluster I play on that has repeatedly been openly racist / antisemitic in World Chat over a period of many months and they have NOT been banned despite the fact that they have been repeatedly reported, by multiple players, each time they do this.
If I blocked that player, it would certainly mean that I wouldn’t see it again in the future. However, the underlying problem, which is the cause of this thread, is that players like this are not being dealt with.
Me no longer seeing the problem doesn’t stop the problem.
Ignoring a threat does not solve the threat. Maybe you yourself are not marginalized and don’t fully understand the stakes; there is a significant percentage of my country’s population who wants me and mine dead.
And “edgy humor” like this has consequences beyond just being a bad joke; it’s a way to help normalize and mainstream hatred against me and mine. Some radicalizing groups even keep handbooks stating as such.
So me personally blocking them isn’t the biggest comfort knowing that the platforms where they organize, recruit, and spread their message keep tolerating them.
I love how nonissues over nonexistent concepts such as hate speech garner so much attention in these forums when an individual can solve this problem themselves by blocking communication to offenders. Meanwhile this game has a novel of issues that are never addressed or discussed, dead forums, dead support, dead game, brain dead spenders.
How about the concepts of racism and antisemitism, because that’s what I have repeatedly reported the player for over a period of months.
That stops me seeing it. It doesn’t stop them being able to say it for others to see. The action to solve the issue is for Blizzard to actually enforce their EULA / TOS and give permanent bans to players like this.
“Nonissues”? Care to rephrase that, mate? I literally just explained to you why it’s not just a matter of ignoring them.
When you hear about minorities getting hurt on the news and wonder why someone would do this, how could they have been driven so far, this is how. This is where it starts, and where it could have been stopped.
Hate groups bolster their numbers on platforms like this, where they can find little disgruntled populations that have not heretofore engaged much in politics, then radicalize them to the cause.
Ignoring them rather than banning them only denies them your attention; the attention of someone who presumably wouldn’t be interested in their message anyway. It does not deny them the attention of those who would be interested.
At the risk of sounding overly optimistic, considering how proudly NetEASE/BLIZZARD advertises how much revenue they have generated from Diablo Immortal, heading gradually towards the billion mark - It would serve their best interests to pay full-time moderators on World Chats.
Paying the average wage for three moderators on each server, rotating their shifts wouldn’t even dent their net revenue.
They could always risk the TikTok path and have the game completely banned by American Congress for allowing corruption of minors, though the reasons for that seemed less concerned with people and more with money. Whether money or not, if I had a company generating this much revenue, I would not risk it now the American government is getting involved.
What exactly is this “corruption of minors” you speak of? I can think of many things one might be referring to there, but few of them are especially unique to or prevalent on TikTok.
Also, the proposed ban didn’t cite a lack of moderation or “corruption of minors” as the reason given; it cited surveillance concerns and claimed TikTok was a threat to national security.
I merely relayed what the news stories attempted to get across. Whether they mean behaving badly, language, ideology, imagery or plain hate - your guess is as good as mine. I thought it was about money leaving America from what I got from it, and they used that as an excuse to try and shut it down. That said, people are disliking hate speech more and more and it is becoming obvious many are sick of it.
I am not trying to derail it. I am merely noting that the way things are being handled worldwide with open-to-the-whole-world products is definitely changing. It is completely relevant. It is in their best interests to do something about it because as I said clearly, employing staff to monitor world chat would not make a dent on their profits. It’s also called being proactive.
Rephrase not needed, maybe some clarification to help educate. Not a single person is “radicalized” or influenced by what ahole says in world chat. The problem here is you see something you don’t agree with and want them punished as harshly as possible, and that is truly disgusting. Your politics and misunderstanding of reality do not belong in game forums, much less any other public settings, but I won’t be demanding someone punish you over it. Nuff said, grow thicker skin and have stronger convictions in yourself.
I’d like them to be punished according to Blizzard’s own EULA / TOS, which says this sort of thing is completely unacceptable and would result in permanent account termination.
I’ll say grow up snowflake. However, if this is directed to a certain person in mass or a certain clan a lot, then yes. Use the report feature. The player does this a lot, then more reports will be towards this individual and someone will look into this accordingly.
