This is Diablo II, not Diablo III

According to who?

You mean David Brevick? Ah, no. He actually is for PLoot.
Seems like you cherry picked somebody else. Who could that be? Maybe the one who was too scared to put a ploot question in his survey? And also too scared to give a proper reason against ploot? Fine personality you got there.
Fits you like a glove.

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nope, and david brevick while a legend in his own right, has nothing to do with this game so nice try at being sarcastic :slight_smile:

this person actually talks to the devs and aggregates feedback for them :slight_smile:

Please post your evidence for this assertion or else I call horse hockey.

The largest public poll to date of D2 players shows that only 39% voted to keep D2R FFA only.

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What a self-own.
Unbelievable.

As do we all. Is this your new stand-up routine? It is more sad than funny, i am afraid.

You know who else talked to “the devs”? Grubby! An actual player who has dominated his game for a decade (a game that actually requires skill btw). Did he get what he (and practically the entire community) wanted? No.

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He is right david brevick had nothing to do with D2. Of course, I stated David Brevik.

That guy is cherry picking as if there was an olympic gold metal for it.

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how is that a self own? you d3 fan boys and d2 casuals keep saying diablo 2 IS NOT d2:r so yeah, he has nothing to do with this game lol

sounds like you self owned :thinking:

but yeah, sorry casual, no ploot for you!!!

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If you knew anything about D2, you would be able to tell.
Let’s see who agrees with you on your famous quote “David Brevick has nothing to do with this game”.
I’d be willing to bet you’d be standing in a quite lonely place.

Because of what “argument” again?
The wrong an delirious one or the cherry picked guy who happens to share your opinion?

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lol ok private loot but arena doesn’t need changing?

yeah make it take at least 3 months to get to rank 14. that is healthy.

You can use whatever pejorative term you want to describe those that disagree with you.

The fact remains that the largest poll of D2 players, only 39% wanted to keep D2R as FFA only. I have linked this already for your edification.

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Before public beta. So that number is going to drastically drop starting today.

If you’d like ploot, vote here:

Private loot - Poll

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Good to hear. I think we can get those numbers lower the more we explain how great the optional new timed loot assignment system is.

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I would be ok with timed loot as in PoE system.

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I am very sure that teezyjumps is this close to changing his mind and jumping over to our side.

Seems like it. Just needs a little tap over the finish line.

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That poll on the D2R forum has less than 300 votes to date. The other poll was >4,000 respondents who self-identified as D2 players.

We got 2 more days of open beta. We will reach that number.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But on a serious note, while not really representative, the forum like-poll at least has it reduced to pre-purchasers. So they can not use that silly argument that we do not know, love or whatever they say the original game.

Btw, i noticed that the anit-ploot narrative changed from “you never played d2” to “d2 casuals”. I think we are also slowly creeping our way up into being acknowledged as long-term d2 veterans. :smiley:

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As reluctant as I am to step into this fray…

I think that teezy is exaggerating Llama’s influence a bit (i.e. “appeal to authority” fallacy), but at the same time I think it’s conjecture to say he didn’t include a ploot question because he’s scared of the answer.

I think it’s more likely because he believes that the introduction of ploot at this point in the development cycle is unlikely (with which I’d agree), so it’d be a meaningless question. He might as well ask if players would like a house on the moon. Sure, lots might say yes but it’s not going to happen.

And for the record, I’d have no personal objection to an option for allocated loot on a limited basis (e.g. sets, uniques, HRs). But I think the odds of any changes to the loot system are quite small, otherwise they’d have said something by now or would have put it in the beta for testing.

The phrasing of the question matters. I think a lot more people would respond positively (well, in saying “no”) to the question:

should FFA loot be the only option

Very likely most will say no. But if you pose the question:

should D2 have ploot?

People will immediately think of D3’s system and be less likely to want it.
As soon as we can establish, for sure, that people are open to expanding from the FFA system, then it’s just a matter of community brainstorming. The timed loot assignment idea, I think works best. But if we just say “hey do you guys want ploot?”, not as many are going to get on board.

What? This isn’t true at all… I’ve played since release (Diablo 1 as well mind you), and I’ve never ONCE played PlugY. So…

The reason I play d2, is because ultimately, I see no other game that does this “style” of game as well as d2. My closest is POE, I have probably 10k hours, but it’s just not as good as d2. Same with Grim Dawn.

OP is 100% spot on.