i’m going to continue using it for Diablo 3.
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I don’t disagree with you. I think that would be proper.
I just tend to err on the side of caution because if I am permissive and someone gets banned they may blame me. I go with worst case and caution so people protect their accounts.
If I am wrong and it is better then everyone wins!
I just want to clarify that it does only specify WoW as a game under the new policy and no other blizzard game, and when searching multiboxing on Diablo 3 there is no change to policies. They did go out of their way to only place WoW in the support answers for the policy.
And i’ll also say that multiboxing Diablo 3 is least reliant on boxing software so i could convert instantly away from using it, it’s just convenient
Yup. Pretty much stated that in their post if anyone bothered to read it.
I know I mentioned haters would find something to complain about with Blizzcon being free. And they have. MBing has been considered bad for ever in WoW and I’ve seen haters of it bash this decision on the official forums. Again proving that no matter what, people will give Blizzard grief over it.
They also not SUPPORT addons in WOW but they allow it. Stop acting like SUPPORTING means that they will provide some short of …help if X or Y player has problems with Multibox or …any WoW Addon.
No one expects that anyways, that they will provide (customer) SUPPORT for an Addon or 3rd Party Software.
I was a niche player in WoW in that I preferred to play a “twink” rather than top level character. Continually Blizzard has made like hard for those who like this play style due to the crying and tears of the masses.
I think I’m on 2 years now of having quit WoW. I will never go back to that game. I am not their demographic, and I accept that. D3 provides me with a bit of fun, and like those of you reading this, I am dying to get my hands on D4!
Yes, they do support addons in WoW.
They mention them in patchnotes, they have developers talk about their usage on the forum, if something breaks in the lua support, they will try to fix it, and of course… the very existence of addons in WoW is due to them being supported.
That obviously does not mean they offer support to the individual addons people have made. They just support the ability to make the addons.
EEEh… no.
Addons in WoW are not officially supported. They don’t ensure that they work, won’t help if they break, etc. So that term is mostly for Technical Support. When Blizzard says
not supported" that is exactly what they mean - no technical or customer support.
Blizzard Customer Support cannot assist with user interface, addons, key-binding, and macro configurations. This includes recommending addons, or help installing them.
I feel like that is a technicality though because they built the sandbox, infrastructure, game functionality to use the LUA files, etc. They have a forum dedicated to player built addons and in-game macros.
Of course, WoW Addons can only change the player user interface using the framework and data Blizz makes available in that sandbox. They are not separate functioning programs.
That is certainly what I would call support.
But I agree, they dont offer assistance (customer support) to problems with individual mods that players are using.
To me it is like if I buy a new TV with HDMI 2.1 support. Support just means the TV has the physical interface. It doesn’t mean the TV producer will help me personally when my specific blu-ray player wont work or whatever. But if all bluray players wouldn’t connect, and the fault is on their side, they would address it.
Yeah, but in the case of Addons Blizz does not care if they ALL break. They won’t change WoW as a result. More than once Blizz has made game changes that dramatically impact addons. Addon makers were not warned and had to just sort it out on their own.
Sure, but I am pretty certain they have also done the opposite, when updating lua (such as restricting stuff they did not want), screwing up existing addons, then making changes based on addon makers feedback. Seems like there have plenty of dialogue between the “LUA devs” (whatever they are called) and mod makers in the past.
Blizzard can do whatever they want in the end. I’d still also say they support ‘raids’, ‘shamans’ and so on in WoW, even though all of those things could be removed tomorrow, without warning.
Just like Blizzard supports ‘questing’ in WoW, but GMs (at least in the past) wouldnt spend time on helping people on how to solve quests, if it was not related to bugs.
I think we kinda agree though, and it is just a matter of semantics about what we call support 
I also do think they would care if all addons broke, since it would likely lose them a bunch of paying customers ^^
Warnings have been made about addons. They gave a very early notice that they did not like Gear Score and would be breaking it’s use for Cataclysm. It was a big deal. Lots of Addons have been announced they would be changed and for players to be prepared to adjust. Advance warnings are appropriate, especially when you’ve allowed something to go on that you were aware of for quite some time. Like 15 years of positive multiboxing support and the Blue posts that have told players they do it too. Giving warning is proper protocol when changing something traditional to allow preparation of change.
Yes, in some cases they did give warning for Addon changes, but in many cases they did not. They don’t have to. Besides, a lot of time the addon changes happen when Blizz incorporates the features into the game. We lost Gear Score but got ItemLevel in game.
That is a change in disciplinary policy regarding third party software. You know that. You DID get a warning about the third party software policy enforcement change. You know you can still Multibox. You were saying just yesterday how you were excited about the changes and that they were positive for you. I assume that was after the attempt at refunds, complaints about the changes, and attempt to get around it did not work.
Then you tried to find a way to still use the software
I assume you were joking? WoW forum regs seem to think you have a bit of a reputation for the types of threads you make.
k for one, what if that guy wasnt me? It obviously is, you can tell by how smart and cool he is, but you could have just falsely doxed someone.
for 2, i got EVERYTHING refunded that i asked for, understand that. i won.
for 3, i was not trying to find a way around using the software for multiboxing, that is literally defamation as it clearly states in the post the reasons for asking.
for four, my colleagues and i came to the conclusion that some minor QoL changes we would be able to continue as if there were no change at all. And in the end, all the change did was eliminate 99% of our competition and will make us the monopoly when it comes to resource gathering and auction house prices. I never took advantage of this before, but i will certainly now after the unfair treatment and hate we get.
The doxing here is starting to cross the line, there is literally no evidence for you to have known that was me. I may have to take this up with the higher moderator supervisors.
My reputation is legendary. I have a 10:1 like per post ratio on wow and it’s only going up. Did i ever tell you of the story of the mostly peaceful protests in Teldrassil?
A video game character is not real life information (aka doxing). If you post on the forums, nothing about it is secret or protected. The account, your characters, and everything you type is owned by Blizzard, not you.
Great. As you were told by the blues, the Shadowlands refund policy is rather easy right now because it is not released yet.
Again, the only way to avoid your posts being read, quoted, or mentioned, is not to post.
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you are Cross Linking Threads and Harassing me. Your intent was Defamatory.
im simply asking you to stop. There is nothing positive to gain from it and it’s harmful.
Your own words are defamatory? Well, that is a new argument. If you don’t like what your own words say, you might want to think it through before posting.
And no, I won’t stop backing up what I say with proof. If that means linking a post, article, policy, etc., I will. Just like I always have.
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what proof? You had no evidence that character was mine until my admission.
you make claims that my refunds were denied.
you claim my reasoning for asking about the software without proof, you obviously have no knowledge of how that software works.
you make baseless accusations all the time.
This one’s just a bit of a reach. Item Level was always in the game. It just wasn’t visible without an addon prior to Cataclysm.
GearScore was just a means of converting item level to a human readable score. Detrimental in the game’s social environment, yes, but it used data available via the API, just like the much maligned raider.io does. The change was meant to break away from the socially detrimental system GearScore used and bring out a standardized system that was transparent to the players and presented a more neutral measuring system than did GearScore.
@Bravata: Like me, your posting style is very easy to spot, not to mention that in concert with the nearly identical character name used in posting on the WoW fora make it pretty apparent who is posting. And had the blues felt MissCheetah was out of line, they’d have stepped in and said something. Thankfully, she is rather good about dotting her "i"s and crossing her "T"s when it comes to backing up what she says. And unlike a lot of other people on these fora, she tries to remain as neutral as possible when doing so. I’m probably one of the very few people here that could match her when it comes to being even handed (because that’s how I want to be treated).
We’re glad you were able to get refunds and find a solution to your current situation. Not everyone’s that lucky - good job. But I wouldn’t go flinging mud around. It doesn’t help you in any way whatsoever. 
Having multi-boxed for nearly 2 years with software, and a number of years without special software, I can say officially that its more of a PITA than its worth.
Even with the software (which btw you had to pay yearly or monthly for), it was a hassle, trying to keep your games in sync.
Not to mention having your system hardware capable of running multiple instances of the game, having enough resources and graphics capability to do so, even having multiple monitors to help with it.
I spent more time getting setup, keeping in sync, dealing with gear on multiple accounts than the time I could have spent solo leveling one.
I never renewed the MB software, and would sometimes just run two instances (or more of the game) and simply alt-tab between them. That was actually faster.
And while battle.net allows multiple instances of itself, that is actually useless for MBing. Because with the normal in-game launcher, you cannot launch more than one instance of the game, despite having multiple launchers.
Instead I have custom shortcuts (made to bypass the launcher entirely) that allow you run as many instances of the game as you want, all from the same game folder:
I haven’t bothered with multi boxing for at least the past 3 seasons. Just haven’t had desire or time to deal with it much anymore. But that video will show you how it works. The info is a bit old, but nothing has changed, even for Windows 10.
It shows how the shortcuts are made, and that you can run either 64 bit or 32 bit instances. (32 may be better for those with 16GB or less memory)