great so he doesn’t really get that all the buffs to rend are not really on top of the previous ww dmg but it’s almost a new build based on rend with a ww look and more important he doesn’t know how high the other classes performing even with the nerfs to chantodos and thorns…he simply suspects that there was more hidden potential with rend and that now after the nerf it is in place WHICH IT ISN’T…someone ask him if 133gr with 10500+plvl is on par with the other topbuilds -.- wtf fluff
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Must have missed it when you were put in charge of what builds we get to play…
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He clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Without lamentation buff, WW goes from 130 to 133-137. With it, it goes to 140-144. That’s a massive difference. I don’t know how far he thinks it’s going to go without the 200%, but then again, I couldn’t trust his judgment on it anyways.
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Hail, Hail, Hail and Kill!
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Yeah, it’s just really sad. He’s welcome to his opinions, and I’ve tried to be polite and discuss his ideas, and not attack him as a person, and he’s done the opposite.
Here’s hoping he keeps helping the Necro community, and here’s helping he stays the flip out of the Barb community. “Help” like that isn’t welcome.
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Well this is not the same build it’s a rend damage this build deal absolute 0 area damage when the last WW build was full based on Area damage.
Clear 140 with 10k para with a “perfect build” this is not insane at all compared to what wizard and necro can do with half this para.
So yes wizard and necro got a nerf but they need it because they was too far away from any other classe in solo and group.
Not nerfing lamentation will allow us to play WW rend in speed farm and benches rat run for atleast 1 season
I don’t understand what fluffy want by saying that this is illogical
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He thinks my comment is dumb when i wasn’t even arguing for the buff or nerf. I was just pointing out that you cannot say that the rend build is an “addition” to the previous build. They are 2 SEPERATE builds. One deals damage with whirlwind. New build only does damage through rend.
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For what it’s worth, I would far prefer that they retain Lamentation in its proper form and nerf the season killstreak bonuses to adjust solo push potential accordingly.
For the longevity of this build it is important for it to be season buff independent, just like other strong solo push builds, while also providing a speed farm (group) option.
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Correct. And the underlying mechanics between how either skill deals damage are very different. I wasn’t kidding when I said he doesn’t understand the Barb class as well as we do. That’s not a jab or an insult. It’s a fact.
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Well it’s personal opinions. It’s obvious he is, in no doubt, just as “tunnel visioned” as the ones he likes to point out. He has his opinion for the 1% mind you, I personally don’t give two craps about 1% versus the other 99%. I’m just part of the 99% that must be “casual” players and I want to use the ptr version of ww /rend.
He thinks he’s right and he has the right to his opinion. He and others will even argue if the nerf goes through and the barb ends up still quite a ways behind the other classes in question. They will still hang on to “oh just wait until the 1% REALLY push”
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You saw how he sneaked out of the question I made him, right?
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lol that video proves everything I’ve been saying about Fluffy for a long time. He doesn’t understand the game.
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He suspects Dark Patatoes would hit 150 if lamentation is not nerfed. So right now apparently Dark Potatoes will do 140 with more push.
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He doesn’t “think”, he believes. Stop replying to him.
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Btw 1.4k replies, 9.1k views, 201 users, 5.8k likes, 50 links, 331 TS likes atm
DO NOT NERF BARBS BUT BUFF!
Barbarians unite!
Hail and Kill!
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I asked the thread to be closed
Not cool at all. Civil discussion requires people with speech rights to have the ability to respond.
Note: For forum moderators. I would like to bring this into your attention that as I watch his stream, some of his followers claim to create multiple accounts just to flag people in barb forums. This is interesting as various forum silence and bans occurred in the last two days in barbarian forums.
Maybe the flags created by new accounts or accounts with less then a certain number of posts should be ignored as such accounts may carry trolling purposes.
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Another wild table…
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| Blade of the Tribes | Standoff | Arreat’s Law |
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| Immortal King’s Boulder Breaker | Cuirass of the Wastes | Spirit of the Earth |
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| Skular’s Salvation | Ramaladni’s Gift | Bastion’s Revered |
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Click on items for details.
Previous Wild Tables:
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It blows me away they still haven’t done that for Ram’s gift.
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Frenzy stacking up to 20 times…Imagine the slaughter…
And the Immortal King set…Imagine the damage the Ancients would do with a 120.000% buff + 520% buff from the weapon, coupled with the new +100% attack speed from the shoulders.
You could easily walk in a 70-75 Grift and let the Ancients do the job while chilling.
Actually it’s 12.000% and I also fixed the Cuirass of the Wastes set bonuis, forgot about adding Dusty Winds and Rend to the 15.000% increased damage bonus in 6 pieces 
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