it was clear to me that PTR non-season barbs were better than all live non-season classes
Do you have the numbers?
it was clear to me that PTR non-season barbs were better than all live non-season classes
Do you have the numbers?
Could you please provide a quote for when I said that or implied that?
I hadn’t seen him post for a while and thought he might have been banned…than BAM! Up he pops again.
Except the events of the last few days in regards to class clears proved you wrong. Not by a small margin either.
Funny that someone that fancys themselves as smart as you can be so shortsighted, biased and seemingly illiterate. You didn’t bother to really read what you were responding to. I’m actually killing myself laughing right now.
You can see it here.
The PTR numbers were after less than 48 hours on the PTR. All numbers are for non-season. The data was current and correct at the time of posting.
I would ignore the wizard PTR numbers. It turns out that the leaderboard was not reset after the last PTR. The 132-137 wizards PTR clears were from the patch PTR 2.6.6.
Sure, this entire thread is full of you doubting WD and DH can reliable do 140 and above.
My point was the top DH and witch doctors most likely had a similar map in the current era when they were trying to push. Therefore, it is hard for me to conclude that DHs could have done it since none has done it this era according to diablo3ladder.
You wrote:
Therefore, it is hard for me to conclude that DHs could have done it since none has done it this era according to diablo3ladder.
If this was easy, then why has no DH did it in the current era?
The hyperbole does not help your argument.
I tried explaining to you that DH and WD are 140 capable and you didn’t listen.
Later on in other threads you implied that Necro and Wiz are strong but getting nerfed next patch therefor 140 is an outlier.
You are incredibly biased in your view against Barb which is why you omit the fact that 140 at 10,000 is just not a big deal and that next patch, even post nerf, plenty of builds will be doing 140 and above.
hmm… I do not see any 140 clears in the current era worldwide for demon hunters. There are only two 140 clears for witch doctors in the entire world this era (both America region). http://www.diablo3ladder.com/leaderboards/normal_rifts.html#toladder Is there a problem with the updates to the diablo3ladder website? The top 10 in the current era for DH P Reg Tier Battletag 1 [image] 139 Sky <CRC> 2 [image] 138 Ulmaguest <王者歸來> 3 [image] 138 Maroder <CRC> 4 [image] 137 …
It’s getting silly in here. Where ya at Blizzard. We need some clarification.
I smell that people will start to punch others in this thread soon xD
I am truly surprised it’s stayed as civil as it has, to be honest.
Could you please provide a quote for when I said that or implied that?
The below text is not mine, this is Micro from another thread.
*** The magnitude of the barb buff seems too great,
I strongly encourage the use of Blizzard’s analytics to make sure that the buff that goes live does not result in an outlier class that is several greater rifts above the next best solo class, especially in light of the introduced nerfs to two classes. One possible solution would be to decrease the rend damage buff on lamentation from 150%-200% to a flat 100%.**
The text below is mine.
It took me about three seconds to find this using a search of your post history. You posted ‘nerf barb’ directly and indirectly for over a week. The very first thing I get when I search your post history is a post from August 27th where Prokhan is asking you, in the barb forum why you were suddenly interested in the class. In that thread it looks like you are trying to make the case that barbs aren’t under performing in solo based on graphs and API data.
I hope that you consider some modifications to class balance in the final numbers relative to buffs and nerfs. Both the new sets seem underpowered. I certainly understand why the nerfs to Wizard’s Chantodo and Necromancer’s thorn builds were introduced. Monk and Barbarians have been in dire need of a buff for awhile. The magnitude of the barb buff seems too great, while monks have fallen by the wayside and need buffs. I think that barbs being the top solo class is fine (only 1 class can have…
Free, I just wanted to tip my hat to your amazing efforts in this thread. D3 debuted on my birthday in 2012, May 15, and my first toon I made was a Barb. They are near and dear to my heart. I had so much fun on the PTR a couple weeks ago and felt truly powerful.
Devs, please listen to the Barb community. Revert the belt buff back to 200%. Not more. Not less. 200 was perfect.
The magnitude of the barb buff seems too great,
I believe darkpatator estimate of 144-146. Lets assume 145. I said reduce the rend buff to 100% on lamentation. That is ~3.5 greater rifts. Barbs would clear 141.5.
I wonder if a reduction in the rend damage affix to a flat 100% would be better than removing the rend damage altogether.
Only a brave soul would post something like that in this thread.
Maybe you should start a new thread.
That quote comes from the second post in this thread. I like analyzing numbers.
Lets assume 145
Lets not, because there is no evidence to support this.
Barbs would clear 141.5
Just stop with your thoughts and feelings garbage already.
But yes, his more recent argument did seem to rely on the idea that Barbs clearing above 140 was just too powerful and not balanced.
Could you please provide a quote for when I said that or implied that?
I believe darkpatator estimate of 144-146. Lets assume 145. I said reduce the rend buff to 100% on lamentation. That is ~3.5 greater rifts. Barbs would clear 141.5.
Thank you for proving yourself totally disreputable and dishonest. Also for the laughs, you walked right into that. Beautiful. Also I assume nothing; for someone who claims to love the scientific method you’re doing a great job of bastardizing it here to prove an erroneous argument.
On topic; revert Lamentation affix nerf, add 100-200% for a total of 300-400%. Let Barbs (and some of us non barbs) enjoy WoTW. Do the right thing here Devs. Please.
“Let’s assume 145” from the guy who also claimed “wait what do you mean WD and DH can do 140+? I don’t see it on the LB”
Do you not see how biased you are?
When it comes to Barb you exagerate and throw up imaginary assumptions of 145 based on what darkpatator said, but when it comes to WD and DH you only believe it if it’s on LB.
Totally dishonest.
So what do you think would be the top GR clear if the PTR went live as is for barbs in non-season?
This guy… He asks for nerfs based on a clear that didn’t happen (145)? Then try to force his claim by twisting data here and there on his favour, then poses like this stoic math lover who cares about the balance of the game.
Man, GTFO!!!
So what do you think would be the top GR clear if the PTR went live as is for barbs in non-season?
It would be the highest GR someone finishes in less than 15min.
Stop derailling the thread!!!