I didn’t know I could speak Portuguese fluently . You must be using google translator or something, which may be why there seemed to be void of logic in your statements in another thread. No, not saying you’re stupid. It meant as your lack of fluency in English may be the reason you were not able to give out logical argument as you don’t fully comprehend what I wrote.
So you’re gonna talk about what made me conclude to that statement? Why is deflation (again, more or less) bad in game economy when it could make in game items affordable to everyone? I even went against the other guy’s premise if you hadn’t noticed, that personal loot might not lead to influx of items in the game when the number of items drop is adjusted. You’re gonna talk about that too?
No, I’m just going to talk about the fallacy itself, it was the fallacy that most caught my attention in your post because it is on this rhetorical resource that your whole argument is based.
As for Portuguese, I know you wanted to call me ignorant, but you are the one who uses rhetorical fallacies here, it is you, not me.
lol. No, it wasn’t. It was what I could ‘conclude’ from my understanding of it. Again, note the part where you didn’t try to argue my main points. If you could counter what I said, you would have.
So refute it, why don’t you? . I even rephrase and specifically wrote it in question form for you to answer.
I should state this. I’m not suggesting nor advocating personal loot, or other ‘suggestion’ here, which you clearly seem to think I am (judging from your post from other thread).
Personal loot woot! I don’t get the argument of free for all… go play with friends, position yourself better.
I think in a large part, the community helps keeps the game alive and promoting systems for multiplayer helps with that. With personal loot, people are more likely to group with randos and make NEW friends.
In terms of position, personal loot doesn’t punish range based players.
I just don’t get the mentality of free for all. Even with personal loot, you can still share a looting experience with your close friends since you can still share your own loot with everyone else.
In short, personal loot promotes multiplayer, which helps build a community to extend the longevity of the game.
Your posts is irrelevant as you continuously fail to see what the main point is. Read what I said, not what you ‘think’ I said. There is a reason the other guy isn’t hopping all over me about that measly assessment of mine. He at least seems to know that’s not the main point.
My assessment you have a problem with derived from what the other guy stated. But you’re telling me you cut off all the context and simply focused on that one sentence? Do you even know context matters? It’s not like I said ‘only people who advocate for open trade is people who sell items for real money’. If you want to argue how that measly assessment is bs to you, you have to go over how my ‘challenge’ to the other is wrong, false. That’s how it goes. You don’t seem to understand this.
No, I simply assumed most people would understand that context matters. I didn’t thought some people would start a debate about logic by cutting it off (as in, putting words in other people’s mouth). I get the full picture now though, from here and the other thread.
Exactly and I’m a SOLO player in D3 RoS that only does bounties in “groups” (pubs).
I only did Diablo or Baal runs in D2 LoD for experience and pretty much never got ANY good uniques or runes out of them EVER (especially from Baal runs).
Free for All is a relic of the past and only alienates people and makes more people play SOLO, cause no one likes having all the loot grabbed from you just cause you’re a ranged class, full inventory, don’t have a speed build or have a low internet connection or PC…
Most of the time I played SOLO in D2 LoD on CBNET and only joined Diablo or Baal runs, ocasionally other bosses like Mephisto or Duriel…
Free for All is the reason I almost NEVER played with others in POE (literaly played maybe 3 times in 2-3 years of playtime) for example or other D3 like games…
im quite tired of seeing david brevik posts… he usually flames d3 and blizzard as a whole while not really having made something of note himself in the last 20 years. its like that old grumpy dude yelling at the kids to get off his grass. a old negative nancy has been that couldnt keep with the times and now reverts to internet trollin. its lame.
Free for all loot is a terrible system, let’s be real. There’s a reason ARPGs don’t use it anymore. It is not user-friendly or fair in any way. At the very least, make it as an option you can toggle on/off during multiplayer lobby creation… we should have the choice. (even David Brevik said he would implement Instanced loot and remove stamina bar, if he would’ve made some QoL changes)
You want to encourage group play as much as possible. Unfortunately due to the loot system most people farmed alone.
Personal loot is a must nowadays… no more toxicity, no more auto-click bots and no more greedy trolls.
Do the right thing and implement this as an option or bnet will mostly be single player again… and it’s really discouraging because i would really love to try some non-toxic 8-player co-op runs…
They aren’t making this game for all the whiny D3 hardcore fanbois that want everything handed to them. They are making it to reintroduce to the world a real Diablo game. Suck it up buttercup. Learn to pick up loot or play solo and don’t worry about other people taking your drops. Life is competitive. Get over it.
If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, but don’t ruin the game because you want to change all this stuff that is completely NOT how it’s supposed to be played.
Next you’ll be calling to nerf PVP and trading too.
Shared loot won’t change anything in my opinion. For years D2 suffered from item dupes, what does it really change to have instanced loot when dupe problem finally gone?
They never mentioned or implied this to happen but if auto gold pickup is a thing then personalized loot must be a thing as well. Imagine yourself trying to pick up gold while other party members vacuum it. Not a pleasant sight.
The dupe problem is already gone if you play d2 private servers which thousands of people do every day. The fact is a group of 8 means 8x the loot gets pumped into the economy which will ruin item value fast. It does no good trying to make predictions based on using experience from broken d2 bnet