Thank you.
It does seem to be ladder only…while they compare it with ladder vs single player instead of online vs offline seems a bit odd to me…Nonetheless. Guess more incentive for people to play ladder…or not, since many people here claimed that they don’t care about rushing to 99 anyways~ or they wouldn’t have the time to play terror zone since they are that busy already
anyway
its a whole new lvl of “feature” for ladder
an exclusive mechanic was the last thing OP needed to prove his point
with this, its clear that blizz wants to reward those who play the ladder as much as she wants to punish anyone for not playing it
willing to reward still does not equal to punishing others. Unless Blizzard intentionally prevents a certain group of player to play ladder. There is no punishment involved
Just because you feel butthurt over your own decision doesn’t mean others are harming you.
give sprinter shoes to some and make others run barefoot
i dont know how you came to such a distorted interpretation of my thoughts on this
i dont feel “butthurt” bc of my decision, im fine with my decision as i was fine with not lvling up my chars before the announcement of TZs
my problem is with the fact, fact bc now its clearly like night and day, that im a second grade player
as i said, an exclusive mechanic is something completely new in d2, its a whole new lvl
LADDER SUCKS REEEEEEE
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I beg your pardon but I’m pretty sure the vast majority of people really do not care. See those 17 (subject to change) up votes you got? Those are from a very very small portion of the active playerbase. Those millions of people playing that don’t come to the forums to participate in the cesspool some call “feedback” are most definitely mostly satisfied with the game.
Take a look at Path of Exile too. You don’t see anyone complaining up storms that they’re being… discriminated against because only each new league has all of the new goodies it comes with.
Chill out. Relax. Have a drink (responsibly… or not, I’m not yer mum) and focus on the good things in life.
Yes. The good things. Like shako. And high rune.
Ahhhhh…… gg loot
mmm… Shako delicious.
i dont know how PoE is in regards to its ladder content
but take a look at d3, his season always had exclusive mechanics, always
so it makes no sense for people to feel punished since it has always been like this, however in d2 things were different, ladder never had an exclusive mechanic, it had parts of some mechanics as exclusive but not a whole mechanic
TZs are a mechanic that comes to supply a need that is not exclusive to the ladder
in my eyes, non-ladder solo only player, it is very difficult to find anything good in what has been presented
You should have a look at the poll I posted, it shows a absolute clear trend and your self estimated view is complete wrong.
Actually, your poll is an extreme small portion, lol. Those are but a micro’s worth of a drop in the ocean. Again, the active playerbase that doesn’t talk on the forums absolutely dwarf the vocal minority here.
But feel free to deny the truth.
Just take a look at how many people have bought D2R. Then take a look at how many people actively post here. Then take a look at the most controversial topics posted here and see how many likes they have (hint, they have less than 200).
It doesn’t take rocket science to know what I talk about.
Anyhow, enjoy your stay at Hotel Resurrected!
You have no evidence in anything you’re talking, but I do.
You’re just guessing what you think what it is, based on your own thoughts, that’s all. You don’t know anything.
But I do have the proof of it and even if it’s just a hand full, because the butt hurt ladder players do down vote it, while others don’t care and don’t vote at all for the post to have it stay recent, does the poll itself, show a clear trend, which can be exaggerated.
More than half of all votes want a end of ladder exclusive content. A bit less than half of all votes, don’t care about it and only 5% don’t want ladder stuff in non-ladder.
It’s undeniable, unless your complete unfounded opinion.
And that’s all what you’re giving here, a simple opinion, nothing more. Not even the slightest evidence.
I mean, you can write again a wall of text about your opinion on how many players do want it that way and what not, but it will stay a unfounded opinion, nothing more.
Lol, I mean sure, you can argue that because you have evidence that 5 children wanted a cherry flavored popsicle that surely that means that it’s the most popular flavor.
The problem here is your sample size is way too small to make any reasonable justification.
I’ve had this discussion with several really active users here over the course of the last two-ish years here and they offered a much stronger stance via polls and voting than what you’re presenting me. Their arguments included polls that had thousands to tens of thousands of votes to them - but at the end of the day, it was still but a small sample of the actual active playerbase.
I’m not sure what you expect to accomplish with your homebrew statistics and throwing them at us and Blizzard, expecting something to come of it. Blizzard is simply going to refer to the polls that they held in regards to whatever it is you’re talking about. The wiser of the folks on these forums will also do the same as we’ve had 2 years or so to debate this topic to death, and then beat it some more.
So… On the subject of “not having evidence”, again, I implore you to look at the statistics that I mentioned. They might not be tangible enough for you because they’re not presently proactive posters on these forums but I assure you in its entirety that the amount of users posting here mean nothing… and sadly, mean nothing to Blizzard in the long run. What Blizzard cares about are the masses, which include Reddit, Youtube, Twitch, the game itself.
Those of us here are just a very loud vocal minority and will remain as such, making little to no impact on the game’s decisions on our own merit.
If you want to have a lasting impact and effect change, you need to take a much more grand approach and do what them there crazy Yootoob influencers do and make a ruckus. That is what stirs the hearts of those that are silent, with their refusal to post here.
aaa… toriaezu~… kyou no ohanashi wa oshimai~
Not going to read this.
I know your opinion.
It’s a opinion, but nothing more.
You surely can have your opinion, but there is nothing you can do to lessen my facts and proof.
My proof is standing ahead your opinion and you can’t do anything against it.
I have the high ground. You just burn yourself.
and thus, the titan falls hard. Don’t start a debate if you have no intention of fulfilling its duties.
I shall now disappear to watch me some Yootoobs.
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So this is what people call an entitled player, not wanting to do the same work others will, but wanting the same reward. This is not how that works, at all.
Because it’s not something for both game modes until the end of the season. Part of the interest isn’t just fresh starts or races to 99, it’s other perks as well. Play the game on ladder or don’t, but stop trying to get them combined into some freakshow of a game. It’s not.
Because they are different. They are not the same game modes, not even close. They have similar content but if I start fresh and you do not, that is not the same content anymore. All ladder characters get reverted to non ladder at the end of every season, that’s all.
It’s the same argument for people thinking hardcore and non hardcore are the same, they aren’t the same, either.
You’re not punished because you’re not participating. Participate, get rewarded. Stop trying to be the kid on the bus picking his nose and thinking it’s cool. It’s not. Either get with the program or don’t. The programs aren’t the same, stop thinking they are.
I have answered your question now. They are not the same, thus they are different. Since they are different, they do not have the same content. If you can’t accept this then you can’t accept it, but it’s not going to change. If that bothers you, oh well, life sucks sometimes unfortunately. Not everything goes our way.
but thats exactly what we are questioning, why isnt?
im sorry but these players totally misunderstood the objective of ladder and as i said (maybe in another thread), those bonus should not be the deciding factor whether or not to participate in the ladder
i dont even know what you meant here
the only meaningful difference are the ladder boards, that are something of a niche, and temporally exclusive bonuses/content
anything else is almost the same as NL, you can emulate a “frash start” if you want in non ladder
they are if you delete your char once you died
you are confusing mere bonus/content with the reward, the reward is the ladder boards and an economy without the influence from NL
thats what we can extract from the patch that introduced ladder
sry but no, you have not
i asked why both modes cant have the same content
you said they are different and yet failed to present those differences
saying they are different bc of something you can do in NL does not represent any difference at all
where the poll? i havent pick yet
Said it multiple times
The difference between ladder and non ladder shouldn’t be access to stuff
It shouldn’t be access to content nor items nor feature
The difference between ladder and non ladder should be resetting the leaderboard
But for this to be interesting you need to make the leaderboard more interesting by adding multiple metrics and activities
It’s gone since days and even if you’d pick for “ladder items only for ladder”, it wouldn’t change anything, because only around 5% people had this attitude.