Ok, I’ve seen a lot of topics that say bots ruin the game (they do) and that Blizz has little to no incentive to ban them since they bring the revenue (unconfirmed). But… ok it is 2023 there are dozens of topics of known bot software posted on these forums and most of them use code injection…
So, if it is not yet implemented by the devs how about funding this project for that team by offering a bot-free ladder experience, something like battle pass (yeah do not hate me, hear me out). I would gladly pay $5-10 every season to play in an environment where the gg uniques do not become “nn” by the end of week 2 and I believe I am not the only one, or am I?
If we as the player-base want bots gone so much and Blizzard want an incentive to keep supporting the game and to wage the warfare on these bots why not meet somewhere in the middle?
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I seriously doubt Blizzard could stop the problem, even if people paid a monthly sub. 10/month isn’t squat for the support crew that would be needed to monitor gameplay 24/7. All of ActiBlizzions games are plagued with cheaters.
Stop worrying about who’s #1 on the ladder. It’s either won by bots, or teams of players working together. Most often it’s the latter.
If you’re worried about bots influencing your play, just play solo self found, or with family/friends, and have them agree to only trade amongst your group.
If anything, it’d be nice to have a SSF option on character creation, which bars you from joining games or from people joining your games. You can turn it off at any time, but can’t turn it back on. Then when searching the ladder rankings, you could toggle “SSF” on and off.
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They’re not worried about ladder position, they just want pay $10 a month for a ladder to sell their “GG unique” for Ber runes lol. But, its likely their GG unique is not GG at all.
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Lol, thanks for engaging but no, I do not want to sell my “GG uniques” for a Ber. The issue is the economy in general. Just today I looked up some trade posts and people are struggling to sell 20/20 sorc torches or 6/40 javs which seems a bit excessive for not even a month in
Lol if they can stop it they should have done so because they asked us money and promised a functioning game without bots (no mod options etc to combat cheating…).
If they ask money they would either collect money and still fail to stop bots or they succeed and prove they just let the bots rampage and were refusing to stop them without plucking us some more.
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Ah yes by, Classic gameplay—the same Diablo II you know and love, preserved. they meant all the negative things you ‘know’, like wretched server stability, mass botting, rampant RMT and spam … but also none of the good things you ‘love’ like the existence of a true LoD/Ladder version or any multiplayer variant that allows you to circumvent bottle-net or utilize the /players command.
Blizzard is complicit so basically Botting, RMT, and Advertising are allowed on Diablo II: Resurrected, a product the developers have no intention of finishing.
However, you are welcome to exist in the only form of multiplayer among these bot and RMT spawn. Because all other forms of multiplayer were, contrary to Blizzard’s advertising, stripped from retail. Enjoy your time in Non-Competitive Ladder.
It would be nice, but if they developed such a thing then they would be admitting that they could get rid of bots, but they choose not to. It would be incredibly bad PR and they would be forced to eliminate their income stream from the botting that does happen.
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People are not struggling to sell 20/20 sorc torch and 6/40 mat javs lol. They just dont want to lower their prices.
Also - there are only a small group of players who can afford 20/20 sorc torch and 6/40s. Once they get them in non-ladder theres no reason for them to buy again on ladder.
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I akso can pay 10 $ If blizzards stop bots, and they start too care more
Guys we need too post on social media , stop bot " maybe they start too see us.
The price is too high and the benefit is minimal.
The difference between a 20/20 storch and a 10/10 storch is hardly noticeable - same thing goes for a random titan’s (even 150%/6%) vs 6/40 javs.
Of course, the 6/40 damage is higher, but it’s not THAT MUCH higher (and you lose a lot of stats in the process)
In short, not a lot of people are willing to pay huge sums for a minimal upgrade.
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They didnt ban bots before ladder, many of bot player exp on 8 account on bots, and farm this sezon Is glory of bots in ranking
You forget that this has been a game of minmaxing ever since Diablo 2 came to be. Would you notice the diffrence of 19/20 to 20/20, probably not but there’s a reason why 20/20 is at least twice as valuable as 20/20, people just want to be optimized. As for the “price is too high argument” I am not sure about that either, when I said that people were struggling to sell these, I meant nobody had replied. Looking at the same threads now, I see offers of 3 ber for the torch and 2 ber for the javs. It is ok… but not for these items, selling them for what is offered rn would be stealing the items. I am not the person who sells these but if I was I’d rather keep them as a trophy, especially in the 6/40 case. This thing is so rare I’d not trade it unless it let me build an entire other character… So 4 ber minimum. Anyway just my two cents on this matter.
It would be nice, but if they developed such a thing then they would be admitting that they could get rid of bots, but they choose not to. It would be incredibly bad PR and they would be forced to eliminate their income stream from the botting that does happen.
I see this argument, but I also tend to disagree. It would be nice if it happened but providing this for an extra cost does not mean that they could have gotten rid of the issue before since literally the revenue is what motivated and enabled them to do so.
Imagine that the current team that develops D2R are there but this is not their main thing. I usually see 20-30k active players on ladder start. Say everyone chipped in with a $10 on ladder start. Let’s say on Avg that is a 250k income every 3 months or 1M per year. Now, this money accumulated would be enough to sustain a permanent team of 6-8 devs that will have D2R as their main job responsibility. This would mean that they can invest more time in detection mechanisms but would also mean that if things go bad they could have some of the devs just monitoring player’s activity at the start of ladder and cherry-pick the ones with odd behaviour and suspend them from playing.
tldr;
I would not see it as bad marketing if they fixed bots at the cost of a ladder subscription service. I think doing this would just give them the revenue that they would require in order to dedicate a software team that takes care of that. The added benefit for all the players would be that this software team will only do D2R stuff so they will be closer to the community and might actually make changes that we all ask for since they’ll have more time to dedicate to this.
They dont ban bots so this game will die also, we are pleasing and posting no one care, we will start no care too. Blizz will lose players Is so many good games now. D2 was having alot option too make best game ever come. Players report above bots in Wow too and they pay for abonament. Maybe this Is why they delete chinise servers. But boters go too otcher, so blizz start making new games like Immortal or d4 now 
one day they will take care of us but will be too late. I will not buy d4 on 100 % every last game of blizzard was bot used, or pay too win like immortal. Good luck from me, I hope one day somone will make game like d2r and I will pay like 10$. No bots, support and devs who fixing problems and not harrasing like Blizzard do many times
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If only there was a way like games that preceded D2 to create community servers with dedicated mods to create the experience players in the community want…
I am with you. Sure, they would not care and let’s face it more likely than not the situation is not gonna change ever but I was just sharing my opinion and wanted to know if I am alone in this or not. After all… that is the point of the forums, is it not?
the real problem isn’t botters now.
it’s that TZ makes the 99 race too quick so lots of people lose motivation after someone else gets it (silly thought patterns but it’s true). ?
so now that the race to 99 is diminished lots of peoples play time is as well… and wilth the slightly upp’ed drops with TZs … the items are also farmed fast even by legit players, and now we get this. players leaving the game a week or two earlier, trading goes much slower because everyone is trying to sell rather than buy. etc.
bots have always been there, and there’s lots of people doing it, some one large scale and others just for slight personal gain, whatever it may be, it’s rampant.
i do wish jsp would ban the blatant botters. if you play hardcore you all know who i’m talking about on there…
I find it funny when people use the term “economy” when talking about a game like this. Yes, there is an economy within it where resources are trading but if you think you can achieve any kind of a sustainable balance in an economy where there is an unlimited amount of resources being introduced into it and a very minimal amount of them coming out, your assessment is way off.
Bots are not ruining your economy, friend. Supply and demand is. The more people play, and the more people improve their strategy, the quicker the economy is oversaturated in every ladder season.
Veteran players have decades of refined strategy and the new generation of min-maxers that discovered this game through D2R are now reaching new heights of efficiency. Even if bots play a role in how quickly the economy is becoming saturated, I think you’re drastically overestimating the impact.
There are a simply more 20/20 storches entering the economy every day than there are players capable and/or willing to pay 4 bers for them. So people can lower their prices or sit on their storches until there are twice as many of them in the economy in 2 days and they’ll have to lower them even further or never sell them.
If items were being “consumed” in ways that are equal to the levels in which they are being introduced, then you’d have your balanced economy. If you think eliminating bots achieves that balance, you are just plain wrong. More items are being found legit than there are coming out of circulation, plain and simple.
I think the 20 character cap has 10x the impact on the item saturation than botters do. More heroes to gear up every season and more stash space as a result, means more items are being hoarded per player.
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Wrong. Botters/RMT are the problem. Server instability, RMT spam everywhere, RMT losers running around with 6+ HRs in their gear on day 1. TZ doesn’t even compare.
A legit ladder is possible
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It IS funny because the economy is something that was created by the “community” (if you can call that part of it that) and projected onto the game. The “economy” didn’t originate from the game designers.
I don’t understand why every week there’s a thread by someone trying to figure out how to give games publishers an excuse to demand more of our money. It’s sad.
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