Legit Ladder modes needed

Everyone with a pulse already knows that the current ladder system is not competitive. It’s a bot-infested RMT dumpster-fire, and even if that weren’t the case ‘competitive’ is a misnomer because every aspect of the game as is favors cooperation and not competition. Fine, let the RMT organizations, wallet warriors, botters, multi-boxers, streamers, and leeches have the current version of ladder (you might as well support RMT in-game at this point), and call it ‘cooperative ladder’.

Add a new Ladder: (Legit)SF Ladder

  • Separate servers from bottle-net cooperative ladder so that human players no longer pay the bot server stability tax
  • Players command enabled
  • All item trading/dropping to others is disabled
  • Shared Stash is disabled until the ladder season ends
  • All item drops are disabled in zones with more than one player present
  • All post-LOD content found on this ladder gains an (int)(*1.4) bonus to every affix, but is permanently ACCOUNT BOUND.
  • At the end of this ladder Legit SF characters rejoin the regular non-ladder pool, but rewards are ACCOUNT BOUND.

Add a new Ladder: (Legit)SSF Ladder

  • Rules of SF Ladder Apply
  • All Quest Progress and WP gathering is disabled in any game that has had more than one player in it.
  • All experience gain is disabled in zones with more than one player present.
  • All post-LOD content found on this ladder gains an (int)(*1.8) bonus to every affix, but is permanently ACCOUNT BOUND.
    At the end of this ladder Legit SSF characters rejoin the regular non-ladder pool, but rewards are ACCOUNT BOUND.

Willing to submit to CAPTCHA / SMS / Single-IP Restriction / Installing Spyware Anti-Cheat / Buying Ladder Season Pass to see this happen, with weekly bot review/ban coinciding with standard server maintenance. Even if Blizzard remains completely inept at moderating bots, they will still be self-found unprofitable bots that can’t sell to others.

There is no good argument against adding the players command to bnet, and on SF and SSF Legit ladders, the only real but bad argument against adding the command (‘but muh economy’) is nullified. P2W and lack of players can stay on cooperative bottle-net ladder just how you trolls like it.

Oh yeah, did I mention that chat still needs to be fixed? Embarrassing, honestly.

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I am In no more bots, we dont buy this remaster too play with bots

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players command, 1.4 and 1.8 bonus (that rolls over to the regular game)… and other player(s) in the same game…
It’s stuff like this that makes the SSF crowd look… “silly”.

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A discussion with CleanLX-1524

notice this troll posts zero reasons against players command

But is account bound so botters and RMT will have to actually play or have all their goods on one account which can be banned when they are found to have botted or RMT. Wow, imagine that!

Yes, multiplayer. With restrictions such that characters are guaranteed SF or SSF. I know, your mind was blown. Didn’t expect you to understand on first reading.

We know you can’t handle SF or SSF, go ahead and stay on bottle-net RMT playground.

I’m sure you’re being honest. Play however you want, but you have presented no arguments against /players and are yet aggressively disparaging this basic feature that always existed in solo mode. Smells like RMT spawn to me, have fun on bottle-net!

No, what separates ‘OP’ AKA logically specced builds and whatever random point/stat distribution build you happen to have chosen is not the players command. Class/Spec balance has never existed and was never intended to exist. Completely different topic.

Feel free to continue to play bad builds, your choice has nothing to do with players command.

Yes and yes, good and good. Even on P8 average users would still find the grind to level 99 to be a ‘slog’.

Yet here you are, making disparaging comments about the mere possibility of a SF/SSF Ladder… makes sense.

Heavy irony.

If you can’t hack it in SF or SSF don’t worry, the same bottle-net cooperative RMT ladder will still be there to coddle you.

Thank you for your contribution.

I’m not interested in any ladder.
I only have 2 characters, both played all quests/acts/waypoints - all content - to finish Hell Solo (in password protected games) before ever joining public games.
I still play 99% of my time solo.
Since Dec. of 2000 i have been playing D2, now D2R (on and off) 99% of the time is spent solo.

If SSF was ever to come to -online-, there will be screams from those who cannot hack it for players command, and increased drop rate.
Oh wait, you already covered part of that.
It is amusing.

It yet further separates melee from OP caster/ranged builds.
It only reinforces all characters will be meta/OP to ensure they can efficiently clear Px content, again for the boost in drops.
It boosts drops, and is no longer about the slog of online “solo” game play.

Again, I have no interest in any ladder.
I have competed most all my life in hockey, indoor-lacrosse, mountain-biking, skiing, auto racing…
Competing in a video game (timesink), again, is of zero interest to me.
This video game is nothing more to me than a moment here and there to escape the stress/pressure of my real work-life.

Enjoy.
I’m done with your condescending communication.
take care.

Don’t worry, the bots would come to those as well, D3 has no trading and has plenty of bots.

A discussion with Regonox-2539

Instead of a single ‘user’ running tens or hundreds of bots in tandem to supplement their income via RMT on a video game, any bots on this ladder would be from loser hobbiests because they can’t actually sell what the bot finds. Because this ladder funds moderators to review suspicious account activity, and all the botted goods are restricted to the bot’s account, they will be easy to delete. Even if Blizzard completely fails in this, the basic system/setup will be so much better than bottle-net cooperative ladder.

Thank you for your contribution.

Wow also and Immortal, You will se on d4 bots come after few days. All farm location will be busy like on Immortal. Trolls will lame world bosses and wiping raids. And You delete game like me lol

This in a SF Ladder won’t work right? You open a TP somewhere. Drop something. And your buyer picks it up a few secs after you drop it?

I guess we would need a real SSF-Ladder with only P1?

A discussion with Necromant-2961

Wrong. You open a TP somewhere, drop something, and your buyer goes over but cant see the item you dropped because its SF ladder and trading/dropping items is disabled. Nice try.

No, multiplayer is possible for both SF and SSF. We don’t need to exist in this wretched form of ladder where cheaters and botters force legit players into single player where their characters can’t interact.

What you are asking would require a lot of development time and resources for something I belive less than half the player base would actively participate in.

Im not against it, its just not realistic for a patch content pack. Hopefully if they decide to make an expansion, such a feature can be introduced.

I like all the ideas, except the 1.4* and 1.8* stat boosts coming to non-ladder. That would destroy non-ladder (PvP) balance. If this was implemented, everyone would be forced to play the second proposed (100% solo) mode to be able to get the absolute BiS (180% stats) stuff for nonladder, also ignoring the first proposed (140%stat) mode. That’s not very thought-through.
But on the other side it would mostly kill JSP and other p2w sites on the nonladder.

But of course nothing like that will happen, ever. This game is in maintenance mode, with just few silly unbalanced runewords coming here and there.

A discussion with Shawmeck-1626

Not true. All of the functionality already exists. Ladder servers exist, ladder divides exist, players command exists, and bogus items like mosaic prove they can add items to the table. They already have CAPTCHA to create free accounts, SMS services already set up, and would not hesitate to charge for a ladder pass. All that’s left is removing/temporarily disabling features like shared stash, trading, and shared drops. A simple account mask on 0x9c and 0x9d item packets suffices to block all player dropped/farmed items. Disabling Quest/WP status also easy just treat all players as if they are not in party and block WP activation.

Will not buy. I want a legit version of D2R that is as close as possible to LoD.

Good.