Requesting an optional buy-in ladder in exchange for moderation against bots. Since Buzzard caters to bots and RMT users due to many of them buying literally one hundred fold more d2r licenses per capita. Because we want a legit ladder to play in a legit environment among other legit players. What’s sad are the people who are happy with the current ladder.
The best solution would be to make a novelty streaming ladder. You could only play if your twitch account was streaming it with webcam. Have community volunteers to audit the players as they play.
muh privacy!
Then play regular ladder. It’s there for you.
Yup, as Turlok said, I can’t see where’s the harm in what I’m proposing. Even if it weren’t purely hypothetical and blizzard bothered implementing it then you can still play the bot plagued free ladder, I would just be opting in for the bot free experience and will pay premium for it /shrug. You and your friend who says that botting is not an issue can enjoy two weeks of play and let me and the other people who paid for ladder have fun for 6 weeks before it gets stale. Again not seeing the issue…
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Just demand they actually take moderation action without having to turn over more of your money to them. They made over $400 Million in net income 2022 Q4. They’re doing fine. They can invest in providing a better service.
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I hear you but the tooth fairy ain’t real and blindly demanding stuff without any incentive for them will likely get nowhere. Acti-Blizz is a business after all unless they get something out of the support and moderation of the game they are unlikely to do anything about it.
Don’t get me wrong if they do it out of the kindness of their heart just because they love the game and the community they’d be amazing but somehow I don’t see it personally
Keeping their brand reputation (what bit is left) is an incentive. Customers have organized in the past to get companies dragged in media when they put out knowingly bad products - including games products. This isn’t the Tooth Fairy or Santa.
AI anti cheat is on the way. But don’t be fooled. It will also be utilized to figure out how to extract more money from players.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. I was following a discord with people bottling, and all of them 5000+ active members got banned several times over multiple ban waves. At last the devs stopped maintaining the bot, and the discord, and ppl stopped using the bot because they started to get banned within just a week of usage. So blizz is clearly banning botter (confirmed 100%)
Pay Blizzard to incentivize not doing anything about bots.
Incredible idea, dude.
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Not a chance, I paid already, that money is enough to recoup what they spent on development AND anti cheat.
In no dimension would I pay again to run without bots, they’re a pain granted but I mainly play solo, find all I need no issues and have never had my experience impacted by losers who still need to not to do well…
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I’d pay $10 a month if they up the game to 2023 (ladder overhaul, no genderlock classes, etc), CnD jsp and hire some gamemasters to deal with the rest of BS going on.
Yeah, we know it won’t happen, cause a Classic game may not be better than one of their newer releases.
Id agree but as long as d2jsp is a thing then there will be bots cuz people like to make money
I can’t see how this is becoming JSP hate thread once again. This is a whole separate issue. I’m not aware of anyone other than the JSP admins making real money out of that site. Yes, it allows you to carry your wealth over but that’s about it. If blizzard implemented in-game trading themselves then JSP would be much less of a factor. But I’m against the idea that JSP’s existence incentives bots.
As for “blizzard bans bots 100%” I never said they don’t. I said they don’t do it on time. Even if the “ban after a week use” is a thing which I highly doubt. That’s still about 7 days late of a ban my dude. The real solution to combat this would be to ban them immediately as soon as botting software is detected which is doable with anti cheat software.
If botting and rmt was truly rampant, people would buy the 2 bers for cheap and then use those bers to get the gg 6/40 or 20/20 torch. But as you’ve stated, there is low demand/bids for those items so either the items aren’t worth more, or people truly don’t have the value to offer. So then who are the bots selling to?
I’m not a big believer in bots impacting my gameplay.
I think what the player base sees is a mad rush in the season the first week, shakos worth Vex, Tals worth Ohm, then week two everything tanks in value and people blame “bots”.
The easy fix on console is to not allow cross progression from PC to console. The next step would be to hire moderators for the game on PC. Implementation of a software that tracks 3rd party programs would be the final step. Never going to happen though.
If you think bots don’t exist or aren’t rampant you keep living in your happy bubble but that ain’t the truth. I never said RMT was, just botting. Possibly the botted items are being then sold through some RMTs but I know nothing of this, for the bots however there’s a lot of proof already.
And you’re right if a ber rune was worth 5 pgems maybe players who didn’t bot their items would be able to purchase the runes and make offers for the gg torches or javs but it’s the bots that are tanking the economy and hoarding all the loot… Ofc botters wouldn’t want to purchase this, they have no intention to use it. All they need is their hdin running chaos and that’s it.
These two things are in tension. If they are hoarding, then prices would not decline. If they are “tanking the economy” by driving prices down with surplus supply, then they are not hoarding.
Also: “muh 'conomy.” The D2 economy means nothing in itself. It’s just a stand-in for how quickly people can get good gear, and people insisting prices need to remain high either have ego or finances invested.
I expect bots do exist. I don’t belive them to be rampant, or to your subjective opinion of rampant. If they were rampant enough, I would use one myself. I had several throughout the 20 years before D2R, and I love the coding/pickit/script tweaking aspect.
Unfortunately I’m not eager enough to buy a second account or risk an IP ban, so I won’t bot in D2R.
I’m unconvinced bots impact my style of online play though. If anything bots increase the supply of goods in the economy. Though the price drops for the seller, the price equally drops for the buyer. Since I never find that gg griffon or fathom anyways, I don’t care that they sell for a lot. I’d rather have their value drop so I can obtain one (because supply is high).
If you honestly believe giving them a sub will help, you’re totally kidding yourself right now.
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The only revenue bots bring are from account closures neccesitating the purchase of a new account.