Yeah I’d agree with that. As a Feral main I think the base UI actually makes the spec unplayable. (Which I think is half the reason it’s as unpopular as it is).
WoW could benefit from some more standardized visual mechanics language similar to what FF14 has. Perhaps not quite as extreme since I think FF14 has written itself into a box where they’re afraid to make mechanics that don’t neatly fall into one of their standardized markers… but they could make some bosses visual and audio queues for certain mechanics more obvious.
I think it’s a bigger problem for bosses that can’t speak English since ones that can tend to have easy-to-remember voice lines for every mechanic. Those serve more or less the same purpose as whatever DBM does.
I don’t know enough about other classes to say. But as a Rogue I felt as it was very challenging overall. Obviously not impossible, but it might have been the hardest thing I’ve done in WoW by myself.
Just some napkin math here, 150 attempts @ 10 min per attempt = 1500 min / 25 hours.
That’s such a total waste of time IMO. I can make money or spend time with friends / family with those 25 hours and be WAY happier with my achievements.
At 5 min per attempt its still 12.5 hours. Such a waste of time. Grats to those who wanted this, but nahhh, I’ll pass.
To be fair, it’s probably less than that. My kill attempt took something around 7 or 8 minutes. Most of my attempts lasted literal seconds since if you’re going to die, it’s going to be to an instant death mechanic and those happen in the early parts as well.
The OP also took a usually large amount of attempts. I think I had half as many.
It’s less about class than spec, genuinely. Shadow priest is possibly the strongest spec for it, but Holy priest is the worst choice.
That said, I’d also suggest arms warrior or fury for a smooth run with lots of durability. 100% parry on arms keeps you from dying to autos if you mess up, fury comes with a simple rotation and full uptime cleave, and both have combat regeneration in p2 in case you lose your hot and brann is down.
Druid of the Claw Feral can maintain Bear armor and health for most of the fight to deal with autos, plus shapeshifting is one of the easiest ways to deal with Spittle. Plus Feral has strong self-heals with Frenzied Regen, Renewal, Regrowth, and Nature’s Vigil to the point that I didn’t need to run Brann as a healer. And holding a Ravage for cocoons makes them go down right quick.
Gotta turn growl off. Spirit Bond and Exhilaration should be good enough in conjunction with Brann’s potions.
Besides that, Bestial Wrath is practically up every 30-40 seconds depending on your Barbed Shot luck. BMs 2 minute CD is an absolute rekt fest of a CD. Eggs shouldn’t be an issue.
Disengage for Spittle. Since your interrupt is ranged and 24 seconds, the heal is a non factor.
Intimidation is there if you get unlucky with egg.
Between wild charge and Tigers Dash, Feral was easy enough, but the longer timer on CDs made it a little clunky (much like UH DKs). The shape-shifting was super nice. Just sucked when you had to shift, move out of fear, and shift back and wait to go back in to continue to DPS as our burst outside of CDs/multiple targets is slightly lacking.
This as well. I could tell when things were going to go sideways within 2-3 minutes.
Most of my sub 10% deaths were maybe at the 5 minute mark.
So you face tank Zek yourself. He’s designed to insta-kill pets that tank (shamans earth ele doesn’t though, probably because it’s not permanent) - but being able to constantly do your rotation while moving, being ranged meaning you can hit your egg while standing next to Zek to not have to worry about the wide arc on the frontal cones, and strong/fast charge CDs.
Took me roughly 45 (i think it was 43) on my Feral which is what my first kill was. Second spec was BM and it took 6. Took about 10 on Ele (unfamiliar with casters really), a handful on my DK, downed it in 3 on my Ret Paladin which is like 602 (seriously…everyone playing a Ret Paladin is cheating lol)
No one gave you any hate. They just pointed out your skill is a big issue when said display took you some 110 pulls to set up and you needed it to be, your words, half the size of your screen just for your brain to tell you your debuffed and not the 4 different ways you can tell spittle is coming naturally.
One would think that, before you wasted hours doing that boss, at some point in those initial 110 pulls you would have looked up something, anything, to see where you could improve before you kept bashing your head against the wall. Evidently thats correct, since you admitted to looking up where your talents were wrong and getting the debuff aura eventually.
Even world first raiders research all they can before they attempt something. I don’t know why players like you think it’s some taboo thing to look up something in a game like this, especially when you had as many skill issue attempts as you did.
You said it yourself, 110 attempts of you straight up just doing the wrong thing, 50 attempts of misplays/rng, 2 attemps of a low percentage pull. All you got from all that was that it needed nerfing, when it’s difficulty is exactly what players like you wanted in the first place
A dungeon is even more imperative than solo content because now, you arent wasting just your own time if you go in willingly blind and slow to learn, youre wasting 4 other people’s time too.
Yeah I can see that. The best way for me to handle eggs was either Feral Frenzy or Ravage. And while I could usually have a Ravage ready for every egg, it is technically up to RNG and it’s possible that the Ravages just refuse to Ravage.
