Zekvir ? ? Overtuned Sadism

[Ophinthos-norgannon]

@Carhagen-moon-guard

Like, as a BM hunter, I have to turn off growl to actually fight him, because if my pet gets aggro even for a second they’re dead, his standard melee attack will one shot them, no chance to use any abilities, pre-emptively casting mend pet won’t keep them alive.

I like when he just gets upset that your pet exists even with growl off and kills the thing for no reason.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

Yeah, I feel this. When I hit 80, my pet would sometimes pull aggro in KC and just die. Made BM really slow in delves for a while.

[Hpellipsis-whisperwind (Hpellipsis)]

@Ophinthos-norgannon

I like when he just gets upset that your pet exists even with growl off and kills the thing for no reason.

It’s because KC generates threat for your pet. Don’t go gung ho on pull, save your major CDs and KCs for eggs early til you’ve built a good amount of threat on the main boss. You should also keep spamming shots into him during his channel at 60% so you stay ahead of your pet. At this point you can start being more liberal with your KC and CD usage as long as the eggs are still dying in time.

[Galabris-alexstrasza (Galabris)]

Brann’s level is irrelevant. The main thing to know is if he is DPS he interrupts vs dispels as a healer. He does more damage as a DPS but since you can’t force him to funnel on the egg it’s kind of moot. Brann’s healing is very valuable up until P2 but kinda pointless after since nearly everything kills you outright and you get free deathstrikes on a fairly consistent basis from the eggs.

During P2 everything becomes hectic. Zekky gains ground spikes that 1 shot and kinda hard to see orbs when he does his fear that also nuke you (on top of the other stuff). Brann also, for whatever reason, seems to be dealt full damage from anything and dies frequently thus you losing the interrupt or dispel. Also Brann doesn’t interrupt the heal ever so you NEVER can let that go.

610 ilvl seems to be around the general level people start having success with Zekky. Obviously more gear helps. I think DK too is one of the “worst” specs since we’re so slow and also have no consistent way to handle spittle except having AMS up before it is cast. Even if we can’t be slowed beyond a point, the damage it deals is still significant and the slow does mean you need to be fast to get out of slams or you are toast…unlike say a pally who just freedoms it off as well as has bubble for a get out of jail free card.

Blood’s pathetic single target damage is quite a hinderance and it’s significant self healing isn’t even a thing because Zekky just smacks tanks harder. If I was even halfway decent at playing DPS specs I’d 100% do it that way. Even my very left of bell curve ways of unholy still had me easily handling eggs where it took farming my hero track hookshot trinket and saving every DRW and reaper mark + trinket use for eggs and even then I was still at the mercy of decent spawns and never screwed up smash baits. Blood just sucks because it is all about the egg bursts (also didn’t help when I was doing it as the pinnacle of the very undeserved blood nerfs). Nothing blood brings to the table can be considered an advantage or “cheeses” the fight.

Honestly I do hope they keep the overall difficulty of whatever S2 delve boss is. I do think Blizzard should remove crits from the dedicated fight (it can stay in delves) and I’d make sure everything resets between attempts (purgatory won’t for instance). People whine but I think it’s fine that the hard mode disables Brann periodically. I’d rather see it be a consistent mechanic and not just from random damage he suddenly just starts taking a bajillion percent of but meh. I just knew when he was down I had to be on my A++ game because the spittle interrupt or dispel I knew he had available wasn’t coming and I had to handle things myself.

[Hpellipsis-whisperwind (Hpellipsis)]

@Galabris-alexstrasza

Honestly I do hope they keep the overall difficulty of whatever S2 delve boss is. I do think Blizzard should remove crits from the dedicated fight (it can stay in delves) and I’d make sure everything resets between attempts (purgatory won’t for instance). People whine but I think it’s fine that the hard mode disables Brann periodically. I’d rather see it be a consistent mechanic and not just from random damage he suddenly just starts taking a bajillion percent of but meh. I just knew when he was down I had to be on my A++ game because the spittle interrupt or dispel I knew he had available wasn’t coming and I had to handle things myself.

Agree with all of this, but I do think without the “annoyance” factors they could have left him in his pre nerf state too, just rebalanced a bit for tanks and healers. It’s kinda comical how little gear you need to kill him right now as a DPS, and it’d make sense for the delve end boss to be something delvers actually need the gear they get from delves in order to work towards.

[Eàu-warsong]

Nope,
you see,I do not have data how many people got Z??,
if percent is small, it must be nerfed.

[Akston-area-52]

@Eàu-warsong

if percent is small, it must be nerfed.

Nah

[Darknessbull-amanthul]

No way.

Zek’vir kicked my A$$ for 6 weeks straight when I found out about it. It’s been the most frustrating, most challenging, rage inducing thing I’ve done in WoW in a long time.

But I loved it. It felt like a privilege to finally squish that bug last week. A 2v2 buddy death match. I had the dps for weeks but it was literally a system that stretched my ADHD to its limits.

That was what was so rewarding about it, to conquer the bug lord I had to conquer myself first.

You should be over the moon that your now only less than <5% of the total player base and you did it all on your own.

Be proud, not salty. Congratulations !

[Eàu-warsong]

@Darknessbull-amanthul

You should be over the moon that your now only less than <5% of the total player base and you did it all on your own.

Be proud, not salty. Congratulations !

Thank you, but you see, it should be 50% of playerbase, then I would be happy.

[Ophinthos-norgannon]

@Hpellipsis-whisperwind

It’s because KC generates threat for your pet. Don’t go gung ho on pull, save your major CDs and KCs for eggs early til you’ve built a good amount of threat on the main boss. You should also keep spamming shots into him during his channel at 60% so you stay ahead of your pet. At this point you can start being more liberal with your KC and CD usage as long as the eggs are still dying in time.

I am talking about it happening randomly not right away. Like, when he is at 65% and he pops an egg down he will just walk over and pop off my pet. I also never start with the pet out because even without KC he likes to pop him off.

[Foxmulder-the-venture-co]

Havoc has it pretty easy in there and the most forgiving.

[Darknessbull-amanthul]

@Eàu-warsong

@Darknessbull-amanthul

You should be over the moon that your now only less than <5% of the total player base and you did it all on your own.

Be proud, not salty. Congratulations !

Thank you, but you see, it should be 50% of playerbase, then I would be happy.

Sister, I agree but I also don’t agree. It’s completely optional content, a novel skill check. And much like PvP it’s helped make me a more situationally aware and better player.

Like, literally most of Zek’virs abilities are already performed again and again in all of the nerubian delves, dungeons and raid.

Ground spikes cone, cc critters, venoms, webs etc.

Call it basic observation or intuition but it’s like blizzard were either pre-season training us for him or foreshadowing his abilities.

I just really can’t see why they should nerf a very reasonable (cognitive load) skill check.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

@Eàu-warsong

it should be 50% of playerbase, then I would be happy.

No, it has to do with target completion rates (if such exist.)

And it most definitely is not set at 50% if it did.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Eàu-warsong

you see, it should be 50% of playerbase

Then it fails to be a challenge.
Defeats the purpose of being an end game pillar boss for an entire season when its defeated on day 3 of the season

[Haennar-stormrage]

It be nice if there were 3 levels of it instead of 2. Normal, Heroic, and Mythic.

[Vergie-illidan]

Outside of the time commitment needed to enter torghast (some runs could be an hour long) … yes definitely agree more fun and engaging than delves. The fun of building on anima powers was fun too.

[Shantarin-kelthuzad]

Demon hunters have a slightly easier time because they do have a ton of leach which means that other than ret paladins, no melee class is more durable.

Demon hunters also have half of their kit bound up in unskippable, uninterruptable animations which frequently means that you’re leaving things up to chance. A lot of runs will be ended because you cast something like fel rush, Zekvir casts AOE fear and you have no time to get out.

Also, you’re heavily penalized for trying to run a moment / inertia build and you can’t use vengeful retreat because it’s your only way of breaking spittle if Bran refuses to cleanse it.

[Amarlly-azuremyst (Amarlly)]

I made a few attempts the other day and could already see that it was just an RNG nightmare that revolves more around luck than skill, so I gave up on the cosmetic from it. I’m not going to put hours upon hours into hoping for a run that doesn’t screw me with overlapping mechanics.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

Luck can compensate for player mistakes, but if you properly execute mechanics and position the boss well it becomes very consistent.

[Faedrela-turalyon]

As someone that spent way too much time to complete this, I can completely understand. You should not do things you don’t enjoy.

However, I felt that way at first and then realized there is an absolute rhythm to the fight but it took quite a while to figure it out.

There is definitely some RNG too, but not as much as you think at first. Here’s hoping you change your mind and I wish you luck if you do.