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Conquest happened. The hows and what happened to the troll population afterward is in the realm of speculation. Without more details, we cannot make authoritative statements.

What.
I’ve been doing nothing but posting screencaps from Chronicle 1 because you guys keep arguing the dumbest things.

“There was no war in Ba Sing Se.”
“Uh, dude, chronicle very specifically says there was.”
“tHeRe wAs nO wAr iN bA sInG sE!”

Conquest through war happened, with such overpowering magic that utterly decimated every troll empire’s army (and holdings, and the people in those holdings), that the zandalari troll emperor agreed to become police for Azshara.

“Police your people for me, or I’ll kill all of them and you.”

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This is still what we’re arguing.

This very vague paragraph.

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Baseless claim.

You can find support in that paragraph for UTTER GENOCIDE ENSLAVEMENT OF THE TROLLS BODIES BURNING IN THE STREETS WOE ONTO THE NATION or “Azshara went with a treaty because she really didn’t give an (expletive deleted) about fighting trolls and they reluctantly lived within the new borders”.

Because it’s really vague.

Small sporadic battles don’t make sense, given there’s umpteen troll empires and the night elves conquered all of them.

No, I know I said I would. I just wasn’t anticipating people to be saying there was no Battle in Ba Sing Se, and thus resulting in time I would’ve spent in War3’s Chronicle on Chronicle 1.

Hardly.
Where’re all the troll ruins, mi amigo?
So many empires, yet so few ruins left.

Probably underwater, given how much of the lands that was the Troll and Night Elf Empires sank after the Sundering.

I get where you’re coming from though. The kaldorei empire map plus the extremely vague chronicle passages do infer a heavy handed genocide against the trolls at one point or another.

Not everything needs to be explicitly written for most people to understand what took place or at least infer what took place.

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Inference is headcanon, not absolute facts like Dreadmore is claiming.

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In absence if direct opposing cannon, it’s fine to fill in the blanks though. Not saying it’s fact but it’s okay to think or guess what happened

Given that Azshara’s empire left the Vrykul, Humans, and Dark Trolls in peace to live within her empire there is plausible direct opposition to Dreadmoore’s headcanon.

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But we don’t know that for sure.

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And Dreadmoore will not admit he does not know for sure.

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Yet, the nelves have so many.

You don’t conquer multiple empires with “Small, sporadic battles.”

Dark Trolls largely lived in caves.
The dragons ruled over Northrend*, and one would presume that the Night Elves wouldn’t press their luck against the Aspects.
I don’t know when humans became humans.

*The Roof of the World, which is the portion of Pangea that Northrend includes, whence the Vrykul originated from.

Dragonblight, Howling Fjord, Grizzly Hills and the lands that would become Crystalsong Forest were all within Azshara’s empire.

It makes sense, because after those just hopeless battles for the trolls, Azshara simply marched into Zandalar and issued an ultimatum, making the trolls give up everything she wanted to claim in exchange for keeping their holy place. That was the deal…that’s why there was never a big troll genocide in the DIRECT way, but what is true is that after the sundering the troll empires suffered a lot of starvation which ended in one case even in civil wars, both the Amani and the Gurubashi suffered (there we learned much more even about the gurubashi case), just because they were many and had very little land left…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739539695578382398/1005200733886500975/unknown.png

Doesn’t appear to be the case. Azjol’Nerub is in Dragon Blight.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/a/a3/Night_Elf_Empire.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160428235210

star´s rest is in dragonblight…and is litteraly a night elf ruin from 10.000 years ago.

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Chronicles sort of makes it sound like the " openly hostile troll nations" were involved in that most traditional of Azeroth-based pursuits… engaging in shenanigans only to discover the lamentable truth.

Anyway, the lore might not make sense, but that passage is the detail we have. We can extrapolate from it however we want, but “small skirmishes” is what we’ve got.