So in your own words if people just lived in her empire they were left alive, not genocided.
Tirisfal to Arathi were all within Azshara’s empire as well, but Azshara did not displace or kill the Vrykul or Humans there. You have no evidence to support your claims. Even when she finally did try to commit genocidal ethnic cleansing of Azeroth with the Legion’s help she had the Night Elves she considered lowborn killed as well.
while azshara didn´t …conquest the land in a classical way but simply…the trolls had to give it up…freely, or otherwise would be facing absolut destruction…this was the deal"
Give up every claim you have expect this and that land…and i´ll allow you to keep your little mountain and your city…otherwise, face my wrath"
You can project what you want into it, Dread.
What we’ve got is pretty minimal, so everyone is making assumptions as to what happened and then arguing from that.
People talking one line of text and making a novel for Troll headcanon?
What else is new?
In my own words I provided several options that could’ve happened after Zandalar was enslaved. The only thing we know for certain is that Azeroth had never seen such an encompassing genocide before or since. The Trolls were utterly decimated.
Project?
If you’re saying three battles conquered pangea, you’re wrong. Flat out.
If you’re saying there were only three battles after the Zandalari were enslaved to become Azshara’s police force against Trolls, maybe idk. I could see Azshara not counting it because trolls were doing it for her.
only certain people do this…and there are often the same people…if you speak about night elves…someone will start to talk about the trolls and make the night elves in an evil incarnate race because …they want to proceed their fantasy as trolls are poor bullys…
They were litterlay NOT …this is simply wrong…and your own headcanon…and it hase no sense to diskuss this with you…
I said saying that was as much headcanon as saying Tyrande participated in the wars.
Which it is. It’s two lines and we’re all making a lot of assumptions about an event we know very little about – even to the extent of where it fits on the timeline.
Chronicle flatly states all walks of night elf life loved Azshara and shared her beliefs about racial purity and how lowly other races were. Clearly, some elves outgrew that.
Doesn’t change that they once felt it.
https://i.imgur.com/02jsSuf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/29gfcOt.jpg
And so again, blame Thalyssra and the nightborne as well for that.
We don’t even know if Tyrande was born yet. All we have is speculation.
You’re assuming something and then arguing from your assumptions.
Depends on what the “current” canon of her age is. WOTA had her as very young. But Warcraft 3 had her as 5k years old by the WoTA.
Always go with the most current lore.
In your own words you provided options that include Azshara having expanded her empire without genocide, so, no, what you stated as the only thing we know for certain is not something you can claim.
I can’t make any comment on if she genocided other races or not. We only have the map of the troll empires, as genocided by Azshara’s Nelf Empire.
You cannot make claims that she genocided the Trolls, either, as for all you know there were still Trolls living within her empire who were left in peace the same as the Vrkyul and Humans were.
We specifically have an example of the Dark Trolls that had still been living on Mount Hyjal.
So in conclusion, “the worst genocide ever seen on Azeroth fully supported and understood by all night elves including main characters who were ABSOLUTELY born at the time” and “velvet glove, iron fist after a handful of minor skirmishes” are both projections into our very scant information.
I suspect both are hyperbole and what “actually” happened is more in between. But we really don’t know.
That is my point, yes.
Amadis, do I really need to go open Chronicle again and highlight where the night elves specifically fought and dominated the trolls through the magical power which Azeroth’s blood had afforded them?
Really?
Why’s everyone pretending to be Zahir today?
You still haven’t read Chronicle about Tyrande and the Orcs and Humans like you said you would, so you don’t have a very high horse to sit on. Especially when you’re still willfully ignoring the Vrykul, Humans, and Dark Trolls that lived within Azshara’s empire.