Pointing out Micah’s race change reminds me that Blizz also ‘punished’ worgen players in BFA by making their heritage quest be about how they should reject being worgen and that their true heritage is to be nice normal humans.
How did they keep punching themselves in the #### with virtually every single story beat that expansion? How did they honestly think that those were good ideas? When did reality hit them?
God, I think what little there was to enjoy in BFA was based purely on the strength of the questing zones and Nazjatar. Oh and Mechagon for gnome fans. Am not one myself, and dislike the more free-form style as opposed a more linear quest experience, but it was still free of the stink that smothered most everything else.
At least there aren’t any playable Horde Night Elves.
That did basically happen at the Darkshore Warfront, and even before then the Night Elf army that was sent down to Silithus was meant to contend with the entire Horde army Saurfang was marching that way before springing the change in direction.
I had read an article a few years back that indicated the opposite was more likely to happen:
The data showed that people who had been more intensely affected by the violence of war were more likely to join or participate in religious groups and practice religious rituals. The data, collected in 2010 and 2011, came from previously published work by other researchers.
The more profound the impact of war on an individual — such as the death, injury or abduction of a household member — the greater the likelihood grew of that person turning to religion.
Not that others don’t lose their faith for the same reason. There are certainly many example of people losing their faith after tragedy as well.
Night Elves were actually immortal due to the Well of Eternity before it was blown up / the second one was sealed by Nordrassil (so Nozdormu’s blessing was just replacing something that the Night Elves already had).
That sounds like head canon. Literally making up Troll tribes that aren’t in canon. And not even very solid head canon, given that the Trolls were set on genociding each other even before the Night Elves existed.
The Troll Wars you’re referencing as genocide was 2,800 or more years ago in the setting.
Dazar’alor was basically left untouched and their people weren’t genocided.
The Zandalari’s army was also affected by G’huun, the Blood Trolls, Zul’s attack on Dazar’alor, and Rastakhan’s general incompetence.
Neither are the Humans from their Troll War.
The remaining Highborne were banished by Malfurion, and the populous of Night Elves that weren’t Highborne stuck to Cenarius’ teachings of co-existence with other races and stayed out of Azshara’s supremacist schemes.
Extremely appreciable difference. That some handful of civilians were attacked at Dazar’alor itself is comparably different from all the remaining population of Teldrassil being burned alive. Even without the burning, Nathanos was daydreaming about killing Night Elves in their own home, so Saurfang’s notion that civilians that didn’t fight back would be unharmed was naive at best and willfully ignorant at worst.
More the point is usually a difference in view between recent events playable in WoW itself versus lore history that was never in any playable form.
Chronicle actually did separate the Highborne and Cenarius’ followers, such as Malfurion and Tyrande, as it actually states:
There was, however, one location Azshara and her forces avoided: Mount Hyjal. The spirits and demigods who roamed the sylvan forests unsettled the queen. She knew in her bones that Hyjal was somehow beyond even her influence. It was a place steeped in ancient magic, a wild, untamable, and unchangeable land that stood in stark contrast to her vision of a new Kalimdor. Publically, Azshara prohibited expansion into Hyjal out of respect of the night elves’ ancient kinship with the forests. In truth, she despised the mountain and the harmony it represented.
Azshara’s views on Hyjal were well known to Cenarius. With growing unease, he had watched the night elf empire expand. Year by year, he became increasingly frustrated with the hubris and thoughtless actions of the sorcerous Highborne. The majority of night elf society continued honoring the old ways of revering the wilds. The fact that these folk still lived in harmony with the land warmed Cenarius’s heart, but he knew that they had no influence over Azshara and her arrogant followers.
Uh.
No.
Dark Irons very specifically started mercin’ civvies.
Talanji frames it to suggest the army hadn’t lost much from any of the above, but the Alliance specifically having merced the majority of them.
lol.
It’s very poignant that you mention being burned alive, given that’s the Dark Iron’s go to for murder.
ye, i don’t doubt for an iota of an instant that Sylvanas was never faithful to the Horde and lied to it ad nauseum. But anyroad you travel, the alliance killed so many Zandalari that Talanji made a reference that they have plenty of gold to fit an army, but no soldiers with which to fit.
https://i.imgur.com/RnYpyl5.jpg
A xenophobia that lasts within the entire Night Elven people until the Third War.
Yes.
I didn’t imply that the humies were still alive from their genocide of trolls.
Night Elves are still alive from their genocide of trolls.
Yes.
You yourself implied that Tyrande followed Cenarius, and we saw her rampant xenophobia in WC3: Anyone who enters Ashenvale without her express consent must be killed.
I still don’t get the ‘pass through Ashenvale to other lands line’. Ashenvale is the border of Night elf territory. You only pass through it to enter or leave Night Elf Territory.
They were all alive during the War of the Ancients, nothing in game or any WoW book or other resource quotes any of them as being alive during the Troll wars, except for Azshara.
Oh I agree, my point there was more things that happened in the ancient past can be handled with far harsher results. So, comparing distant history to more modern events gets a bit apples to oranges due to how the game has to treat both.
We´ve allready explained - multiple times - that there was NO troll genocide prior to the great troll war, because the night elves lost their interest in defeating the trolls on the battlefield and forced them in obidience through an treaty, to simply leave their home if the night elves demand it - expect - the holy mountain and zandalar
