Okay, Name one.
This is simply wrong. Azshara forced them in obidiance by threatening to destroy their holy mountain, the nightelfs did not massacre on mass the troll popularity during the conquest. They even lost interest in defeating the trolls on the battlefield. Thats the reason azshara acted the way she acted.
Even chronicle confirmed this.
Never was stadet or confirmed anywhere that the nightelf genocided the trolls during their expansionist age
I can do better.
Jarod
Maiev
Shandris
Tyrande
Malfurion
Chronicle states that before and after conquering the trolls, Azshara enjoyed the adoration of her entire peoples. She didnât lose that until after.
The original question makes no such implication:
There was Night Elf content in Warlords of Draenor. It was not the focus, but it existed. Not all the playable races got even that much involvement in Draenor.
To be fair, Dreadmooreâs created this thread to gripe at posters like Ethriel that (finally) arenât even here any more.
Talking about Lunarfall or whatever it was called? The little spot off to the side of the garrison with the Moonwell quest line?
Actually I think that those five are all too young to have participated in the wars between the trolls and nelves. In fact they may not even have been alive until after the peace treaty with Zandalar; all are considered young by nelf standards and Shandris was only a child during the War of the Ancients after all. Azshara, who commanded so much death, is still around though. However, as someone who was always a villain (just not known to be such by her subjects) I donât feel her actions stain an organization that didnât exist until over 10,000 years after she committed them, and by which time sheâd been part of her own new separate faction for millennia. Nor should they, as modern elf nations are founded by those who turned against and overthrew Azshara.
Really, I think the main emotional difference between the two wars is not necessary the time-distance, but the mere fact that the troll extermination war wasnât a playable in-game event that pitted one half of the playerbase against the other.
They were young 10,000 years ago.
They werenât babies.
The emotional difference is largely that the playerbase has been trained to think of trolls as less than the other races in the game. They exist to be conquered and humiliated, and beyond that put onto a shelf and only referenced when absolutely necessary.
Lookinâ forward to the primalist troll raid coming in Dragonflight btw.
I look forward to the nightbornâs apology letter for the troll wars.
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10,000 years ago was the War of the Ancients, the war against the trolls ended before that. Is there direct evidence that Malfurian and Illidanâs age group participated in the troll wars? Maybe they werenât even born until after the peace treaty with Zandalar.
Chronicles lays out that the entire night elf race took part in the colonization of Azeroth.
The top 5 were alive. They werenât babies. They were all young adults.
It is worth noting the Kaldorei paid for their colonialism and expansionist hubris in the Sundering. When⌠most of the died, a fairly awful death of drowning. That is if the Highborne had not looked the other way while the Legion made mulch of your soul. Those most responsible became the Naga, which have always been treated as bad guys by the game. Even chronicle does not paint most of the ancient Highborn in a very good light.
Afterwards the few Kaldorei survivors went into near total stagnate seclusion for 10,000 years. So, Karma caught up with them, really. I have not seen it catch up to the Horde in the same way, really.
âŚdo you honestly believe that that literally means that every single individual member of the kaldorei nation personally took part in military action against the trolls, presumably pressed into service the instant they achieved Legal Majority? And I also already pointed out that there was a period of peace between the troll wars and the War of the Ancients, we donât know how long it was, but it could easily have been a century or more; enough time for entire generations to be born. Additionally, Mal and the others were all from Suramar, a city fairly close to the center of the Nelf empire, well away from where the troll fighting was taking place, even IF it was even still taking place during their lives.
What.
They paid for their abuse of titan blood / demon magic.
In one form or another, absolutely. Whether that be by farming and providing food, blacksmithing, carpentry, what have you. Not everyone has to be a warrior to contribute, but the entire race was madly in love with Azshara at the time. That isnât opinion, thatâs âMetzen wrote Chronicle 1 to be objective fact.â
Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do as I must.
I donât know if Blizzard can punish the Horde without it coming off as punishing the Horde players, thus alienating them even further after forcing them to play stupid N### grunt for an expansion. And yes, the nelf losses in BFA could also be seen as Blizzard punishing Alliance players (nelf players especially of course) just for liking their faction. Really, it was mind-bogglingly stupid all around that they thought their audience actually wanted that. Either someone was deliberately sabotaging the story, or there was a serious case of them all huffing their own farts while moaning âSmells like beautiful flowers!..â or both.
Thats wrong, again
No negativity in the dojo.
To be fair, most office jobs are like three hours of work in a day and five hours of âWhy do I have to be here right now?â
Micâhâs posting style seems the same to me as back when Micâhâs picture was a Worgen or otherwise.