"""Ysera isn't Nelf content"""

[Akiyass-moon-guard (Akiyass)]

@Micâh-moon-guard

Yea. By far the better two zones

[Amadis-draka (Amadis)]

@Drahliana-earthen-ring

The parade was IN Lordaeron.

He was returning from Northrend.

Whoops. Yes.

[Adamant-gnomeregan]

Yea; i still think if this setting was presented in even a passingly realistic scenario, based on everything that’s happened, the Dwarves and Gnomes would be the only Super Power in the world and should/would be driving the story from both a political and individual standpoint.

But Blizzard doesn’t want anything that dejects from it’s current Humans and Metal Horde status quo. There is no Alliance, no Night Elf culture, Dwarf, Gnome, etc… there is only Humans and the people who are sacrificed to advance their story and be comic relief for them. There is no Noble Horde, no Tauren culture, no Undead Lordaeronian, no proud Sin’dorei, etc… there is only Metal Horde(ooh so edgy) and the people who are sacrificed to advance their story and be comic relief for them.

[Amadis-draka (Amadis)]

@Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord

acknowledged as flawed and incorrect by Anduin

As you have pointed out many times, Danuser says the characters can be wrong, and Anduin is not really any sort of arbiter on historical matters.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Amadis-draka

As you have pointed out many times, Danuser says the characters can be wrong, and Anduin is not really any sort of arbiter on historical matters

Yeah well Varian inherited leadership of the Alliance when Lordaeron fell, so.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Amadis-draka

Danuser says

This has no meaning because again

@Baalsamael-turalyon

It’s beyond incoherent, ridiculous, and baffling to be arguing from an in-universe perspective as if any of this lore is made with any degree of care, attention, or concern in any sense, let alone with a clear vision and plan in mind that spans any singular expansion let alone multiple expansions.

There are limits to subjectivity and this narrative is an objective failure.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Akiyass-moon-guard

You don’t have that meta knowledge.

I missed this lie.
Yes, I do. I have him stating it as point of fact.
https://imgur.com/a/UmdX7lp

[Treefolk-elune]

@Renautus-arathor

Many green dragons take on NE visages, including Y’sera.

No, she is not. She has Blood Elf model. Just like Maiev.
And those are 2 most biggest Lore in game mistakes Blizzard developers have ever made! + Blood Elf statues in the Well of Eternity dungeon.

P.S. Elune, Tyrande, all those blue cosmic weapons - those are not Night Elves content. Night Elves content was when Aszhara have returned. Or Darkshores were attacked.
So Blizzard, please add real Night Elves content. We still wait to get at least some info about Malfurion, Ashenvale e.t.c. We still wait to see new NE cities. We still wait to see racial armor (Night Elves armor, not this cosmic blue colors of the Titan Elune)!

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Treefolk-elune

No, she is not. She has Blood Elf model. Just like Maiev.

yeah you know, those blood elves with purple skin, nelf eyes, and green hair.

[Meldaea-cenarion-circle (Meldaea)]

@Treefolk-elune

No, she is not. She has Blood Elf model. Just like Maiev.
And those are 2 most biggest Lore in game mistakes Blizzard developers have ever made!

They probably thought the blood elf model’s haughtier and more regal posture was more becoming a dragon lord. No idea why Maiev used it though. Maybe the outfit was awkward to model on the choppy 2004 night elf skeleton. Or maybe they just wanted the most ruthless night elf character to do less bouncing.

[Skarm-sentinels (Skarm)]

@Amadis-draka

You’d think they would have learned from the first time their ruler betrayed their blind loyalty.

“Oh, c’mon, what are the odds that our beloved absolute ruler would turn out to be a deluded death-worshipping lunatic who sees and treats us mere expendable pawns for their own personal power twice in a row? You’re just getting paranoid in your undeath.”

[Guzzle-barthilas]

@Meldaea-cenarion-circle

Imagine tying so much of your self-esteem to elves on the internet that any criticism or mockery of this fictional race strikes you as a personal insult. Or bullying.

This doesn’t apply to orcs, right?

R-right?

[Akiyass-moon-guard (Akiyass)]

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[Zerde-sargeras (Zerde)]

@Skarm-sentinels

Oh, c’mon, what are the odds that our beloved absolute ruler would turn out to be a deluded death-worshipping lunatic who sees and treats us mere expendable pawns for their own personal power twice in a row?

I don’t know, maybe listen while she was asked the poignant question of what made her different from Arthas with her only response being she served the Horde. Should have raised a few red flags then and there.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Akiyass-moon-guard

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@Akiyass-moon-guard

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@Akiyass-moon-guard

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You’re very boldly spamming/trolling my topic on an account that can post images.
Wonder how long that’ll last.

[Cursewords-tichondrius (Cursewords)]

@Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord

Also, unrelated but I saw several posts claiming that because Arthas/Lordaeron and/or the high elves left the Alliance, it quit being the Alliance. This argument is acknowledged as flawed and incorrect by Anduin, but I want to point out that if you take this as fact that means the Alliance quit being the Alliance while still calling itself the Alliance mid Warcraft 3.

Yes, it does derail from the topic at hand. The Night Elves getting so, so much, including their own aspect. And the Night Elves likely deserve all the rewards and attention the Devs have been giving them, because they are one of the more played Races. On the other hand, Blizz could give the more neglected races some attention, now and then.

But yeah - the High King of the Alliance acknowledges that the Alliance is the same as before, and their legacy goes back to Daelin and Arthas. The High King speaks for the Alliance more so than anyone else, that should be plain.

And according to the datamining, the people miss their king

It is strange that people even try to argue that it is a different Alliance. Some Forum posters like to bury their heads in the sand when they encounter lore that shatters their head canon.

[Zerde-sargeras (Zerde)]

@Cursewords-tichondrius

It is strange that people even try to argue that it is a different Alliance. Some Forum posters like to bury their heads in the sand when they encounter lore that shatters their head canon.

Its not a different Alliance, and its precisely that reason why we got “of Lordearon” as well. It is as much our legacy as it is the Horde. So yeah Dread, either we get claim to the flaws of the Alliance as well as its legacies or not at all. You don’t get to pick and chose.

And even then, Arthas is as much part of the Horde as it is our, especially considering you want claim to Lordearon as your own. So if you want someone to blame for what he did, go blame your undead buddies as well.

[anon94774342]

@Zerde-sargeras

Arthas is as much part of the Horde as it is our,

Arthas was son of the high king of the alliance at the time

[Zerde-sargeras (Zerde)]

@anon94774342

Arthas was son of the high king of the alliance at the time

And Arthas is the brother of Calia, you know, one of the representatives of the current Forsaken!

PS there was no high king, Terenas was the patron of the Alliance, but not high king.

[anon94774342]

Legit on wowpedia as well states his former affiliation was with the alliance