And all forsaken were once Alliance.
Yeah cause they are dead humans. No one is denying that
Then we agree, Arthas and the internment camps is as much the fault of the Forsaken as anyone else.
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Whoever denied that arthas was not at fault at the forsaken should not be discussing lore really. Plus your lobbying in peasants and civilians mostly for the camps not authority figures
Oh Micah, someone is calling you out.
Well that was a hell of a stretch
Also âLordaeronâ is Horde now. Everybody knows this. The bulk of what remains of Lordaeron citizens are Horde, and theyâre claiming their capital and lands for the Horde. It really is a settled issue now
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Yeah well Micah is wrong in this scenario then arthas is responsible for the forsaken creation too. I donât know if itâs been decanonized but if slyvanas was the mother then arthas is the father figuratively speaking.
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No more of stretch then to blame the Alliance for Arthas.
Actually we still have living Lordearon citizens and as per Exploring Azeroth, Southshore is back in Alliance hands. Not to mention, the living can have kids, the undead not so much.
But undead can live forever?
Are you even sure that the remaining Forsaken are mostly Lordearanian?
And I remember very well that I and my first Forsaken were once loyal Alliance citizens. We died for that banner, and our reward was to be hunted as vermin.
Do not forget the Forsaken are now composed of the dead from nearly every human nation there ever was. Stormwind farmers for instance were raised in Cata. We know Sylvanas took as many corpses as she could to Brill to have the rezzed.
Theyâre an extreme minority. As I said, the bulk of what remains of Lordaeron citizens are the Forsaken. Also, none of the kids the living Lordaeron citizens may have will have known Lordaeron ; theyâll be regular Stormwind citizens, just like their parents basically are now
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We donât know the populations and Blizzard will never give said population. As for children of said living Lordearanians, peopleâs memory are long and there is a reason even now second and third generation immigrants to say the US still maintain a connection to their ancestorsâ heritages.
Iâd also point out the current leader of Stormwind happens to be Lordearanian, probably the highest ranking Lordearanian left.
No one is denying that arthas was responsible for the creation of the forsakenâŚâŚ
They just arenât responsible for the crimes the current alliance has comitted. Not that zerde knows the difference
The crimes we were all talking about were things that happened during Warcraft 3/2. All of those can be attributed to the Forsaken, specifically anything Arthas did and the internment camps! Because they were the very same citizens who enacted those policies.
Not that you are able to follow any of what we are discussing.
also:
So again, who is lying now?
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You. As usual
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Nah, just your toxic projection.
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Nah. Youâll just do anything to headcannon the alliance as being innocent
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And you will ignore all the faults of the Horde.
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Iâm not ignoring anything. They just arenât responsible for the crimes of the alliance. You flat out lie and leave important events out of the equation
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They are as much responsible for it. Particularly anything that happened during Warcraft 2/3. They want to claim Lordearonâs legacy? they get that warts and all.
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