"""Ysera isn't Nelf content"""

You might be thinking of the dinnertime scene in RotLK where Kael’thas dismissively tells Antonidas that the Alliance would do better to just pull the plug on the camps and kill all the orcs. But either way, his personal opinion over scones is far from national policy, especially given he was estranged from Silvermoon at the time.

I do remember something about Varian casting a vote to spare the orcs the guillotine (from one of the RTS manuals IIRC), but I’m pretty sure his foes were Thoras, Genn, and Daelin, and that the elves’ vote wasn’t mentioned at all, if they even had one. I don’t think Anasterian even existed as a character back when this was written.

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I was like…

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Well so far the lore is that the elves just said “y’all crazy” and left the Alliance instead of paying for the camps.

Because it was the one moment for the Night Warrior power to be fully explored and for Tyrande/Night Elves finally have a chance to physically spank the crap out of the people that did them dirty.

After several years of promises and teasing, and the entire horde being expected to pay for their crimes to just one single person.

Ugh. Horrible.
Once again Sylvanas was super awesome and totally in control of everything and smugly poofed away.
Ugh… it really suck. I waited years to see exactly the same crap I saw before? Why?!

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Not just that, they even gaslighted the Alliance and said it was their fault the elven forests burned.

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But she would have died if she did that. Elune saved her life.

She could have beaten the crap out of Sylvanas and then Elune takes her powers because otherwise Tyrande would have died and that is the moment Sylvanas escapes.

If we have to do this “this power will kill you its so powerful”

First we need to see this “power” in action and then we can do the whole depowering trope anytime and anyway we want.
Blizzard did it the worst way possible to make Sylvanas come out at top again… and after years and years it got so damn old.

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I don’t care about your power fantasy, especially if your power fantasy sacrifices Tyrande for revenge.

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Its not about power fantasy its about Tyrande and Night Elves needed after Sylvanas + Horde genocided their race.

Sylvanas and Horde have been on a power fantasy trip for years and each time they outdid themselves.
If Horde and its characters get to have power fantasies actually materialize in game I want some of that too especially in the wake of something like Teldrassil.

I am not asking you to care but you asked a question and I answered.

If you actually read what I said you would have known this would not have been an issue.

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So, I been thinking, why is it when alliance players want something, it’s expected to come at the expense of the horde.

But horde players suggest something to fix the horde and half this forum looses their damn mind and claim some nonsense like it not being fair because they didn’t get to destroy the horde

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I did not ask a question, it was more of a statement. I was not expecting a reply.

Well I rose above your expectations.

You’re welcome

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I can always count on you to offer your opinion, even when it’s unsolicited.

I pride myself in excellent service.

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That was Gilneas and Strom. The elves’ stated reason for leaving the Alliance was that the humans were poor allies who’d “abandoned Quel’Thalas in its darkest hour” when its leaders chose to defend Lordaeron rather than finish up the battle in QT. The Alliance’s financial woes only helped convince them that the faction was a sinking ship.

But none of this says which way the elves voted on the orcs’ fate. I’m not convinced they even had one.

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I am sure I saw it somewhere on a wiki once but I could be wrong :man_shrugging:

Ill agree that we should have a more diverse portrayal of cooperative druidism if you agree that Nelf content should be more about the Sisterhood and the Sentinels and less about Druidism.

I don’t agree with that. Druid camps were all over Azeroth, dealing with none-Kaldorei issues.

She is. Pretty much. For everyone else, she is, at most, a peripheral deity.

Less Druid themes and more Sisterhood, Sentinel, and Warden themes. All of Val’sharah was dealing with the Nightmare, which as Druid exclusive as if gets.

Not before Legion. It was the Elune capital of the world… until we finally get to go there and Elune has been sterilized from it.

What great way to communicate that you have no idea what you are talking about. Nice talk, I am going to ignore you now.

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I claim the 300th post

Nobody just talks about the story. Everyone has a bone to pick with someone else. Even I’m getting tired of it.

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Not at all, from the warcraft 3 manual:

To make matters worse, the brusque high elves of Silvermoon rescinded
their allegiance to the Alliance, stating that the humans’ poor leadership led
to the burning of their forests during the Second War. Though Terenas tactfully reminded the elves that nothing of Quel’Thalas would have remained
if not for the hundreds of valiant humans who’d given their lives to defend
it,

As mentioned, the elves had the audacity to gaslight the Alliance as it was going out the door.

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Do you just read one source and ignore everything else? The forests burning is one of several reasons given as to why the high elves left the Alliance. Anasterian’s public declaration that the Alliance had abandoned his kingdom when it turned around and marched back to Lordaeron is from Chronicles 2.

Their belief that the Alliance had nothing more to offer them as allies with so much of its funding going to the camps and rebuilding is another one, from the old encyclopedia.

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