I played dark souls for 30 mins just didnt like the feel of it. I know alot of people like it but just not for me. I wonder if people are comparing a tab target game to a action game for hardness. They are not really comparable. The saving civ 5 is not hard because it doesnt take skill. Strategy is the hard part and when strats are known the content becomes easy.
I donât see how thatâs a bad thing. Cosmetics has been part of Video games for a long time. The fact Retail has like an overwhelming amount of cosmetics, is pretty sweet, but at the same time, in comparison to most triple AAA video games these days where itâs super limited or mostly sold by MTX is pretty depressing.
The same way you find Classic enjoyable, they (the OP your refering to, i think) find Retail enjoyable. They have their number of reasons or they just do.
When did you start playing?
Why do you ask? 
It seems a good many who played vanilla dont like retail. Conversely, those who started playing WoW in later expacs have a different appreciation for modern WoW.
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Youâre not wrong lmao.
The only real thing I kind of want Retail to have from Classic is the sense of community ( I dont like phasing. ) that servers bring and the difficulty of leveling a character. Oh, and I also want Vanilla/TBC PVP. As nice as it is to feel âevenâ in retail in BGâs as it scales you I do like having clear advantages over players when I have better gear ( For example, when Reckoning, Seal of Command + Judgement deletes an Orc warrior in one shot with Sulfuras ). Tie it all up with a nice feeling of actual hatred towards the opposite faction.
Other than that Classic has
-Better PVP/Competitive PVP
-QoL
-Better raids
-Viable and Optimal specs
Im genuinely curious as to how Blizzard will deal with the mess that is PVP in Classic. There isnt alot to do in Classic aside from running raids weekly and comparing parses lol.
My issue with this is why would they like Classic? I understand its the same game, HOWEVER, WoW Vanilla was a SANDBOX MMO. This means it lacks general direction and content (unlike retail) and the adventure and fun is solely reliant for the most part on the players and how they play in this sandbox.
The way players are playing Classic vs Vanilla is 100% different, meaning it is pretty much a completely different game.
In Vanilla you never Qâd up into WSG and faced 100% premades with your pugs. Everyone was lost and generally stumbling around trying to understand everything. Even Rank 14âs then (And even now ) keyboard turned and back pedaled.
I started in Late Cata.
I have played Vanilla, but only super duper briefly as a young lad on my momâs account. Confused the hell out of me wondering why the pause menu didnât pause the game. I was used to Single-player games at that time. 
No, i havenât played âplayedâ Vanilla if thatâs what your asking. I just ask my friend who did played vanilla at the age of 4 for vanilla related info. All i know is Feral Druids suck back then, Thottbot was the 2004âs WoWhead Equivalent, Nature Resistance go to AQ, GMâs were a lot more active, and the Blood plague happened to get WoW in the news and even studied by actual medical experts.
Well, i donât have a problem with Classic in what itâs trying to do, emulate Vanilla, infact, i actually like the game. It dearly reminds me of my first time in Cata, only a lot more harder, no tmog or barbershop, and the poo-poo fog distance.
And after playing it and having some fun with it, I think Blizzard should transfer some of the things in classic into Retail, cause while Retail is my preferred version, i have to admit, itâs lacking a whole lot, especially with BFA. Things like the talent tree, indepth professions that isnât âoh go to the dungeon to do thisâ, and a third slot⌠âŚJust so i can get my gun back they took from me from MoP! 
This is true. I did enjoy mythic+ but not enough to put up with everything else. The Vulpera was my breaking point.
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End of BC/start of WoTLK. My favorite expansions were Wrath and Legion.
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iâve been called a wrath baby on this site by people who have grunt and stuff because i came back in wrath with a second account. i played the last half of vanilla, bits and pieces of tbc (which i didnât like much), and then whenever i came back on this account in wrath and have been subbed off and on since then. you donât need to tell them when you started playing. you can play a game and decide if itâs good or not. the game wasnât actually any harder in vanilla. we were just all terrible. like google raids then and youâll see rogues spending all their energy on feint who are in the top 3 of dps. this is not a joke. the people are arguing that THAT is what takes skill. and most of the âi played in vanillaâ people are actually âi played on a private server for 10 yearsâ people, so i donât trust them anyway. wrath for me made the game a ton better than it had been. then in cata before the dungeons were nerfed were the most fun iâve had in dungeons in this game. until i did some low mythic+ in legion. the game just keeps getting better. but you look at this forum and you can see how well #nochanges is working out for them, who donât want change. 
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! wow. The trolls are out in force today.
Low effort troll
you havenât try out latest patch out, even my dad is struggling when trying it out
The game definitely isnt getting better. We completely disagree. Although, Legion was pretty damn good. For me personally, Im done with Retail. Vulpera is just trash to me.
That is huge assumtion, I see more people playing retail then classic
Except that Iâm having way more fun playing this game with my friends than I would have if I played modern WoW by my self because everyone I know minus 3 people no longer play modern WoW.
And while Classic has some bugs, and while itâs by no means Vanilla; itâs at least fun.
Sure I post about the dumb crap that plagues this game like my 5pc T1 hunter set bonus breaking my class, the fact that auto shoot has a massive delay that didnât happen in Vanilla, or a plethora of other things.
Regardless of these annoying things Classic is still a game that my friends and I can get on raid, drink, smoke and have a good time, change servers to our other guild and do it all over again.
There is plenty of stuff to do, fun to be had and I am by no means attacking modern WoW; Blizzard does that daily with bad design choices and they donât need any help killing the characters I spent years building.
Would it be awesome if modern WoW was fun again? Yup!
Will modern WoW ever be any good again? No idea, but not gonna wait up for blizzard to fix that mess.
Exactly as Vanilla, or we gonna pretend spamming frostbolt is hard?
And the rest is difficulty contrived from artificially complex mechanical convolutions, and whack-a-mole design wanks.
When did players stop understanding that the âdifficultyâ (or the challenge) in RPGs is mostly getting to the point where your frostbolt is worth spamming. Your gear and build does most of the work. Thatâs the entire point of an MMO RPG. If you guys want a pure action game experience, you are in the wrong genre.
Criticizing WoW for not being mechanically difficult enough is like hating on Counter-Strike because it has no character development.
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Vanilla wow is just dumbed down classic everquest