Your shuffle queues will continue to get longer

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@Dumb-sargeras

I didn’t put my rating to brag, only to show that I’ve played both roles to a decent level which lends credence to my experience with the system. If you don’t see how that’s important to the discussion at hand then all of your points are pretty moot.

It’s no more important than me saying I have been 2785 on my enhance. The math is what’s important here and you could be 1200 or 2400 and the same math applies.

@Dumb-sargeras

No, it’s not. DPS breaking even means healers would have to not go 3-3, which as we’ve already established is the most common outcome. It’s not common no matter what spec you are, period. Again, that is by design of how shuffle works with a dps playing with every other dps for 2 rounds.

I’m feeling a bit spunky atm…

Yes, yes it is.

I made a bunch of posts about MMR and how it works for DPS and tracked all my matches. As I said, in all my matches up to 2400 on my shaman, I had NO matches where I went 0-6 or 6-0. I had lots of streaks of going 3:3. On the other hand, I never had that happen on my hunter. I had lots of matches where I would go 6-0 and then go 0-6 the very next game.

It’s not the same as a healer, but the dilemma is the same.

As I said, I’m arguing for better MMR management for healers. I don’t think healers are moved into their appropriate bracket fast enough and if anything, a good healer could easily get stuck in a range that is 400-500+ rating below where they should be.

Looking at the Data & MMR - Round 3 - Enhance Edition - Getting 2400

Back again with more interesting data, but this time on Enhance! I previously pushed 2400 on my main hunter and alt hunter as Survival. Enhance was a completely different experience with a completely different set of win conditions. Now that might be obvious to everyone, but it’s really interesting seeing it in practice AND how it affects your wins and losses overall. For my hunter, who I matched up against was a massive factor in wether I was going to lose or win a match. The first was havi…

@Dumb-sargeras

Instant queues mean nothing when the result is you being frustrated/demoralized after the session.

I get that… but you can’t discount the value of instant queues. It’s nice to sit down and just play and not wait 30 minutes. Like, really nice. It’s nice to have some actual agency of your game time.

Also, you need to grasp that they NEED healers to play as well. If rating for healers was as easy to get as it was for DPS, there would be an even larger issue. Healers would be queuing for half the games they are… imagine what that problem would look like.