Me? I took 8 years off to have kids. So now I’m just filling in gaps. And replaying stuff I did in the past but never on this newer character (my hunter, not this panda…).
I don’t know.
What do you do?
…27% completion seems to imply that you’re not going back to do old quests.
There’s obviously some contrarian mindsets in here, but anyone actually wanting to argue this might use my experience as an example of how easily these quests become backlogged with the current questlog limit.
I’m gearing my new horde alt to play pvp/wpvp with my irl buddy for season 4. He will become my main for TWW as well. I’m sticking with pvp gear so inbetween queue pops I’m doing any combination of the following:
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12 primary weeklies (2 Emerald dream (seeds/superbloom), 4 Pvp, 2 Valdrakken, 4 profession. These are top priority, don’t always get completed and always return. We are now nearly and perpetually halfway full of our quest log
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Loam Niffen weekly. Need that rep to get those knowledge points from big hat guy. If you want to level engineering gonna want those Shadowflame sparks to put towards skill gains. I can usually do this weekly in one sitting, but not always
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Emerald Dream campaign. I’m mainly gearing pvp gear but need drake crests/flightstones to upgrade gear for pve/casual m+, and this is the most efficient way to get them first
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Culinary dailies for world food buffs. These are usually just one or two quests at a time, but one of them is blocked if you haven’t done the Valdrakken storyline. And if you’re on an alt, there’s some more quests on your plate
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Better finish that Ohn’ahran Plains questline if you want Taivan in wpvp, need that Renown at 22 (anyone saying this is unnecessary hasn’t played as horde in wpvp recently, and I can’t convince my irl friend to go alliance, he’s an OG)
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I still haven’t gotten the Junkheap Drifter from Mechagon island. There’s a questline you need to do to unlock the port there. While there, I’m doing quests so I can have the resources to make Beastbot Powerpack, because there’s two Mini’s that also have a ridiculously low drop chance from when I started that years ago
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I use BfA engineering items constantly so there’s the BfA main campaign to unlock world quests to get the upgrades. Plus I haven’t seen horde side of that story in awhile, so I’ll occasionally jump in and do one or two quests there. Now we’re getting into “your questlog is full” territory
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I didn’t play WoD so I started that campaign to see what it’s like to see what the garrison is all about. They also throw quests at you. These are the ones that go first
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Going to Broken Isles Dalaran to get the hearthstone working throws quests at you immediately and aggressively. I have difficulty saying no to the Suramar questline, every time. Also if you want the goggle transmogs, there’s an engineering questline needed to begin that
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Timewalking adds extra turn in quests that I don’t always remember to get to, there’s always Darkmoon Faire stuff I don’t always complete as well
The objective truth here is this game is nearly 20 years old and has accrued an enormous amount of things to do and it’s all designed to take time. For a game that offers this enormous buffet, we’re not asking for a bigger plate, but a bigger menu to track what’s being offered.
For the contrarians, you can look at it this way: we can literally incorporate LFR and instant dungeons, a trading post, a game shop, break barriers of flying with dragonriding (even in old world), increase character cap, break down transmog restrictions, and add cross faction to nearly every aspect of the game… but somehow a questlog that tracks everything you do, solo, is game ruining?
Yeah I just don’t agree.
*edit: forgot about cross faction
Frankly, they neednt look at it AT ALL.
its none of their business, no one is affecting their game by adding more quest slots
some folks on this forum are just busybodies…contrarians, as you say…all they do is troll in threads like this where NOTHING being discussed is their business or concern, but they cant help themselves but have pointless points and opinions just to get attention.
Best thing to do is what I do…tell them what you think, then put them on ignore.
That sort isnt worthy of the energy or the time investment.
I only spend my time discussing things with those who make valid points, disagree or agree, and arent here just to hear themselves talk.
they dont agree or disagree, in all reality.
they dont have any opinion that matters.
They just like to post to fish for responses for attention.
Clearly.
otherwise theyd see a topic that doesnt affect them in any way, and maybe toss out a thought, then theyd be out of the discussion.
But when they make it an agenda to keep on railing about something that has no bearing on their game, they pretty much are admitting to trolling, nothing much more
doubling the quest list so there is enough room to run CURRENT content AND old questlines for transmogs, etc isnt going to harm a single one of them. lol.
Poor management isnt a reason to have Blizzard cater to someone(s).
What does any of this have to do with my quest log being full?
Ok, you don’t fill up your quest log - good for you.
What do you want?
It looks like your whole complaint is that you’re mad people are making requests for things that you don’t need or care about.
It’s not a space issue, it’s a lack of actually doing the quests you accepted issue. If you’re just gonna sit on them for forever then maybe don’t pick them up to begin with? I have never, in my entire time playing the game, had an issue with the log size. Why? Simple, I do the quests, and you can too!
Wow, good for you! You like to focus on a very specific quest path, I don’t. It’s not like there are 1000 old quests I wanna hoard, all my quests are Dragonflight quests. I couldn’t care less that you don’t need extras slots, I personally would like to have more and the 25 limit is an annoyance for me (and may others it seems)
Why does it matter to you if they add more?
I don’t much care for the quests honestly. Or reps. I enjoy the end game. I like dungeon running.
But I also don’t complain about the content I do/miss out on from my own actions/choices as I know what it is I’m choosing to/not to do.
Your quest log being full is a poor management issue. Has everything to do with it. If we’re going to ask Blizzard to cater to everyones exact needs for every little thing, we won’t have any spare devs or dev time to create future content.
It’s not even that. Again, you cannot fill up 25 quests in a specific zone without completing quests to further quest chains. If you leave that area and go somewhere else to do other quests, you do not need those undone quests in your log and can get rid of them to make room for the new quests.
You’re not working on Waking Shore quests while in the Azure Span and vice versa. The quests aren’t going anywhere. You can drop them and pick them up again when you’re back in the area.
we won’t have any spare devs or dev time to create future content.
That’s your big concern?? Dev time?
Do you think the encounter team would have to spend 6 months on this? Do you think they’ll need graphic designers to photoshop the number 25 to a 30 for 6 months?
Blizz does small QOL adjustments all the time. I’m asking because, to me, a bigger quest log would be a nice QOL than I dunno… allowing the pet collection to be searchable by pet color or something.
Your quest log being full is a poor management issue.
So I don’t manage my quest log the same as you, who cares? If enough people feel like they would need a bigger log, then we need a bigger log.
Either way, it’s impossible for you to do and enjoy everything in the game - blizzard is gonna do stuff you don’t need and don’t care about, as they have done for the past 19 years. Instead of complaining about what people ask for, go ask them for the stuff you would like and if enough people agree they’ll do that instead. You can’t just have everything you want and nothing that you don’t in a giant MMO with a huge variety of players with different playstyles.
I like quests, so I’m gonna request quest stuff. You don’t like quests - go request stuff for the things you enjoy.
It’s literally a non-issue. It only becomes a problem when you make it a problem yourself. It would be like complaining that pet battle party size is too small because you can’t beat some pets with only 3 pets on your own team. This isn’t a blizzard issue, it’s a you issue
The last time they tried to ‘increase’ it, it emptied everyones quest log and ruined a bunch of other things. But yes, it should be increased. Another thing to alleviate this is to make things idk, world quests or like how Emissaries USED to be.
That’s the point you’re missing. Why just YOUR request for what you consider a nice QoL? Why can’t the pet collectors get their search function as well. What makes your request any more important than theirs?
Let’s look at the actual quote:
Can’t just choose yours because it’s you and ignore everyone elses request too.
Also not how that works. Again, your poor management isn’t reason enough for Blizzard to cater to you.
Okay. Heed your own words. Just because you want it doesn’t mean it’s enough of a reason for it to be implemented.
Where did I say they can’t have their search function? I said for me the quest log would be a better QOL. I don’t go into the post where people are requesting for that pet search function and say “nuh uh I don’t need it so don’t ask for that”.
Did I say I wanted them to ignore everyone else’s requests somewhere? I simply stated what mine was. You are the one who came in to say my request was not valid because you want them to focus on the stuff you care about. You are the one in here fighting for blizzard to cater to you instead of me and all the others in this post who have said they’d like a bigger quest log.
That’s your opinion, I don’t care about it - I want to enjoy quests without having to stay in one area or clean my log all the time. If blizzard wants to “cater” to me, they will. If they don’t, they wont. You can try to fight it all you want, it doesn’t matter. I will request whatever I feel like requesting based on my personal game experience.
Right here:
What you want vs what someone else wants
I’m saying we shouldn’t open the can of worms over a non-issue. If you could collect more than 25-50 (whatever the max is nowadays) quests in the same area at the same time, then I’d be all for it. But bad management isn’t a reason to open that can of worms.
What I’m fighting for is for future development to take precedence over a non-issue. A company doesn’t change the clock in time for everyone because one employee is always 30 minutes late.
Double standards much? I can’t voice my opinion on the matter because it doesn’t matter simply because it doesn’t align with what you want, but you’re free to speak on whatever requests you want? Come on now
Nothing in that text says “I don’t want them to have their request”. It says I personally would prefer this thing over that. I did not say “The pet collection being searchable by color is a waste of resources and not needed”. I’d be completely fine if they decided to add that feature. I wouldn’t go reply on their post saying it’s pointless.
You’re assuming that it’s one employee. If instead it was 70% of employees requesting to start and finish 30 minutes later for X reason that doesn’t affect you then the company might still consider it.
I never said you couldn’t voice your opinion, I said that I personally didn’t care about it in this specific situation. I don’t care if you think I don’t manage my quest log well - it ends up full sometimes so I’m gonna make posts on the forums saying it’s annoying for me.
All I’m saying is that stating this specific opinion about me is meaningless to me and will not change my mind - you’re free to repeat is as many times as you want. Go nuts.
Sure. Show me solid evidence of even 25% of the player base having a full quest log issue.
Never tried to change your mind. Simply stating and showing you that a fix is in your hands. It’s also the same as asking Blizzard to dumb down the game because some people find more than 3 abilities too many to handle at once. The solution isn’t to ruin everyone elses fun, but to get better (as is with everything in life - yes certain restrictions apply).
If this wasn’t something easily handled and corrected on the end-users side, I wouldn’t be saying as much.
Why would I need to prove that to you? How would I even do that? It would serve no purpose to attempt to prove that to you in any way. Blizzard will know based on the number of forum posts, replies and in-game suggestions.
If you’re in here fighting against it, then you must believe that it is more than 25%, otherwise you wouldn’t be worried about it.
If only 1% of users have this issue, blizzard will never increase it and that’s it. Doesn’t matter what me or anyone else posts.
There’s a big difference between reducing abilities and adding to a quest list. I don’t want them reduce abilities below 3. A quest log is far from being a “git gud” skill issue. It’s a glorified checklist. Nobody is gonna have less fun by being able to pick up an extra 10 quests should they need to do so. No one’s experience will be negatively impacted or changed by it - especially if most people never have any issues with it.
Because youre the one who used numbers to try to back your argument.
In which i agreed with you. Such a high amount would likely merit a change as you suggested. And i gave plenty of room by dropping the number to 25% instead of the 70% you used.
Yet not everyone who agrees with your stance uses the forums or in game suggestions. So the fraction of the player base who wants this change becomes even more of a fraction that speaks out.
Nope, if it was large enough to warrant id be all for it. As i said, im against it because it is a non-issue corrected on end-user side.
Yet ive seen more support in favor of reducing overall abilities than there has been for an increased quest log.
Some people have already said they increased it once already from 25 to whatever. If thats the case, my comment about them increasing wont stop the complaints even if they do bump it again. So why bother if it’s not going to fix anything.
If you’re hitting the limit now, whats going to stop you from hitting the new limit? Youre not suddenly going to change your mannerisms and stop collecting quests you’re not going to actively do because they raised the limit.
It will not fix your problem.
Giving more space to hoarders doesnt stop them from hoarding. Just gives them more room to hoard more things.
Do your quests. They are there to be done, not stacked forever.
Because you should do them, not stack infinite quests to never do them.