I didnt claim i personally would reach R10 in a month.
I was asked what was my estimate of somebody TO go and actually do it and I said a month.
I would zone in on other premades all the time.
I happened to run a premade myself that would pug 1-2 slots each day. I would still go 30-5 with huge win streaks against everybody but the teams pushing people for R14.
No worries. I relish the challenge personally. But I would think that most people wont enjoy bashing their faces into the brickwall of their servers R14 group constantly without any variance.
**also, the “you better farm HKs inbetween ques” is typically for those people pushing upper ranks of which are limited to 1, 3, and 5 per week respectively if I remember correctly…
****ONE MOOOOOORE THING, try doing something other than attacking people and trying to misuse information and misquote people.
Where is this character with all that Vanilla PVP experience? I’m posting on one of mine, which you can see looking at my profile.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt that your experience was the way you remember it.
In the Shadowburn Battlegroup CRBG brought with it instant toxic games and trashy behavior.
When Battlegrounds are all on your server how you behave in games matters. Everyone will hear about it if I intentionally drop the flag to end the game and my reputation as a PVPer is ruined.
CRBG might be needed later on, but early in the game we should see a lot of people ranking and a very active system. Just don’t agree with putting it in from the start, and I’ve already explained why.
Maybe you missed that clarification of “instant” being a figure of speech.
Maybe we have different opinions of “instant gratification” and “instant gratification” mindsets.
IMO, the desire for, or insistence upon, faster queues, for BG’s to be completed in as few w as 15-20 minutes, calling for others to give up at the first sign of a loss or the BG taking “too long” so they can requeue sooner in the search for faster honor is driven by that “instant gratification” mindset.
Kay, so you’re complaining about the trash casuals that have ALWAYS been that way… Giving up immediately. Letting go. Just trying to do things FASTER… I saw that way more when it was a single server playing itself because people would recognize the names of the people that would gank them all time and just leave.
I saw more people fighting back afterwards… Yes. When you zone into an R13 group and your team just shuts down because they know its going to be brutal, efficient and they cant stop that train and then just sit there… thats absolutely frustrating.
Personally, I’m more concerned because of the insinuation that he would to quote “ruin somebodies pvp name” for dropping a flag? I mean… How petty can a single person be that they will go out of their way to attempt to disgrace somebody for doing something so simple as forcing him to lose a game…
While I did occasionally see one or two players in a BG displaying that behavior when BG’s were single realm, there was an immediate and drastic increase in that behavior when cross realm BG’s were added, to the point where that behavior became the norm. In addition, there was also an immediate and drastic increase in the number of AFK’ers (“AFCAVERS”) in AV.
IMO, the damage to the PVP community in general caused by CRBG’s far outweighed the convenience that those CRBG’s provided.
And the AFK’s were promptly dealt with in a very swift manner by blizzard giving us the vote to kick option/flag AFK… I personally right click the cave and report everybody that doesnt leave in the first couple minutes and every time I looked at the map while dead and saw people not moving.
I saw more people trying to avoid premades BEFORE the switch than after… Different battle groups… different people… I think I was on Rampage. And well, we lived up to our name and rampaged over everything.
Pre-CRBG you have to create a raid when you zone into the BG. It doesn’t auto-create it. If Blizzard will auto-create raid in Classic we don’t know, but this was a 1.12 CRBG feature originally.
Say this one Druid (hypothetical, not you) is known to be a rage quitter and spews garbage at his team the whole game. He’s not even amazing at carrying the flag, just a raging whiner.
Are you going to invite him to the raid? Are you going to bust your butt to help him? How long would it take for that guy to end up on /ignore.
The consequences are there for people who solo queue pre-CRBG just as well. You’ll see many of the same people if you are trying to rank over and over again in your BGs.
Which may or may not be relevant depending on what your goals are from the honor system. Once you get to whatever your max rank is going to be and buy whatever gear you want honor doesn’t really mean anything in the old system.
All the stuff people mention that we as players can do to slow the death of BG’s like WPVP, talking smack on the forums etc… wasn’t enough. Eventually CRBG’s will be the only solution to keep BG’s alive.
That’s after merges and free transfers and everything else they might conjure to address the deeper problem of faction imbalance. Again, it all will lead to CRBG’s. Just like before.
I’m fine with CRBG’s (they were in Vanilla, afterall) but not until further down the road. There should be no need for quite a while.
No to cross realm BGs. Community is what made vanilla, and to that end it’s up to the players to figure out what they want their PvP experience to look like and select a server accordingly. I intend to roll on a medium to high population PvP server where there’s a population imbalance in favor of Alliance on my Horde characters and vice versa on my Alliance characters. That should be doable as I’d imagine we’ll get more information on realm type and location ahead of launch, and even if we don’t there are going to be websites that track population statistics.
Worst case scenario, they merge a few realms with low populations and faction imbalances, which is what I’d assume they’ll do as a cost saving measure if anything.