Short of forced character transfers there is exactly nothing blizzard can do to keep realm populations balanced.
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You guys arguing to remove it are using the same argument that would bring back infinite windfury procs and boss 1-shotting reckoning bombs.
Itâs said the target is patch 1.12, in patch 1.12 we had cross realms. End of discussion.
I wouldnât mind if they prioritized the que for local server though, but after 5-10minutes Iâll take crossrealm. Some Severs are going to be insanely unbalanced factionwise, that means waiting up to 5 hours for a bg, and when you get one, itâs 40v20 or 10v5 and already losing. No thanks guys.
Use your heads. Some of you have drank one to many nogginfoggers
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You lack imagination. Iâve posted on this topic rather extensively in the past⌠Population controls could be quite easily accomplished, mainly via automated scripting even.
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Mogar has a point Luuni, Iâm not saying that CRBGs shouldnât be implemented, but your basing your argument on the fact that you want an authentic 1.12 recreation. The fact is, given blizzards content plan, we are not getting an authentic 1.12 patch. If you want an authentic 1.12 recreation, then naxx and AQ should also be at launch right? launching with only MC & Ony is in no way authentic to the 1.12 patch right?
By your logic CRBGs should only be available when naxx is available because otherwise its not authentic⌠so why shouldnât CRBGs be only implemented after phase 6 launches?
I do want CRBGs (Battlegroups of 5) but because it tackles some problems many servers are going to face down the line. There are alternatives though⌠If we want to have non-CRBGs then I think we need a system in place to at least moderate faction balance on each server to prevent huge faction skews (this has negatives to it as well).
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Yep that sounds great until they donât work, itâs not like blizzard didnât try various things during vanilla that shockingly also didnât work.
It will help keep things open.
Realms have never been balanced and it went from super long, multiple hour ques and being railroaded by your servers #1 bg team to having a good shot at not being steamrolled and able to play against other casual playersâŚ
While not ANYWHERE near perfect, it is a necessary evil in my opinion and something that after implementation of the system, did a lot for battlegrounds as a wholeâŚ
Iâm definitely against cross realm. Iâd prefer lines and hopping WPVP to the social cancers caused by not having to give a damn about who does what in a BG.
Personality is so much more important than convenience.
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CRB is garbage. At the end of the day the extra few minutes waiting in queue is worth playing against people from your server every single game.
Iâd completely remove the ability to sit in town and push buttons like a vending machine to do content with total randoms. CRB was the first such feature in the game.
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It was the OVER USE of this feature that wrecked things. With its one purpose of fulfilling the battleground and pvp arena it did well in of itself.
We always have Wpvp to fight those people whom you are so interested in seeing. That wont be going away⌠But having instanced, continuous games is healthy for PvP, more specifically, healthy for battlegrounds.
What happens when your server gets that 1 group that never loses? people stop playing the BGâs because they dont want to just be roflstomped ALL THE TIME.
You realize the issue on live isnt because of crbg right. And everything to do with blizzard balancing/changing racial traits. Anybody that loves pvp and been with this game since vanilla will tell you this exact thing. Remember when every man for himself came out? Everyone and their grandmother was human for that double dps/healing trinket. Alliance que times was just as bad if not worst then current horde. Once that was addressed people ran back horde for double interrupt (blood elf) and still stick to horde do to better racial.
Crbg by no means encourages faction stacking. Min maxers encourage it.
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It was a lot longer than an extra few minutes for a lot of people.
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I played alliance. On my server it was around half hour wait times. Then CRBG came and it went to like 10-15. Horde side on my battlegroup went from 1hr to 20mins⌠It was definitely a lot longer than âa few extra minutesâ
Iâm surprised - HONESTLY - how few people actually remember vanilla and how it played cuz⌠A lot of these people are straight freaking out and having anxiety attacks over trivial matters.
Popcorn worthy
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Seriously, will most likely be the same people who wonât even participate in bgs if they get their wish because they will sit on 35+ min ques just to face the same premade, thats well known on the server, that curb stomps his pug every match. So in turn they stop pvping via bgs.
I think most of the people crying for 1.5 AV and all this other stuff dont PvP at all lol.
I was career PvP through MOP, hated raiding⌠I really, really, really, really hate raiding post MOP (they added thunderforging here ughhhhh, the beginning of the end.) and after Warlords PvP was just trash. Homoginized stats in legion⌠And now the classes are so watered down and muddled together running into a BG is like walking into a ginger convention from southpark and having them all turn to you with the same soul less look on their faces and then swallow you into the group
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All i ever did in wow was pvp. Vanilla to now i just donât care for raiding. So to see some of the statements being made its like wow, yall either dont remember or didnât have a clue as to what was going on.
Vanilla tends to be more Alliance heavy generally because of PvE and the character models.
Whatâs more relevant is that on most PvP servers, people will roll whichever faction is more populated for grouping / raids and sanity while leveling.
This later causes very long BG Queues.
Or maybe those that want an earlier version of AV and single realm BGâs simply prefer a different experience, one that is less convenience and instant (figure is speech, not literally âinstantâ) gratification driven.
Iâm going with has 100% no clue and were casual PvPers who want the nostalgia of PvP in vanilla from their early early early days playing before they realized they absolutely sucked at it and abandoned battlegrounds
What makes you think you wonât queue into the top pre-mades from other servers in your Battlegroup in addition to your own? You absolutely will, those groups spam BG queue particularly the honor weekend BG.
If you are going to reach Rank 10 in a month as you claim in another post you better be out farming HKs while you are waiting on queues.
CRBGâs were in no way shape or form âinstant gratificationâ
not even close XD
While I agree 1.5 was probably the most cohesive, largest scale, and in depth version of AV I can also stand back and realize how toxic 1.5 AV is for that particular event in general⌠A lot of people would never see finished games, or would zone in as they were losing because people would leave to try to get into a new oneâŚ
1.5 AV was exactly as hard as they had wanted it to be, and then realized that perhaps it was too in depth to be considered a âbattlegoundâ
Their more indepth attempts at it in the future included Halaa, the arenaâs in hellfire, the auchindoun towers in outlands and Winterspring in WotlK. Both were relatively awesome adaptations of an in world objective to fight over.
Having it be removed from instanced PvP gave them the ability to put as difficult as they wanted NPCâs (within reason) and quests that were fulfilled when you had claimed the objective for the time frameâŚ
But having an INSTANCED pvp event that would take a week or more to complete was justâŚ
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