No. Not also authentic.
This is patch 1.12. Cross realm BGs existed in 1.12.
I don’t care how long they were in the game, they could have been a day, they were in 1.12. We’re going for 1.12. The talents are 1.12. During phase six when Naxx is released, we’ll finish with 1.12.
So put cross realm BGs in there because it is authentic.
It’s pointless Luuni. He can’t see past his nose.
Man, reading this forum…it’s really unfortunate if Classic is being designed with convenience at the forefront rather than experience, community, reputation, rpg elements, etc…
His argument is the same as saying
Let’s cut out the third book of the lord of the rings trilogy since I didn’t like it. Lord of the rings existed before the third book, so cut it. The story ends at helms deep.
You can’t say it’s the full lord of the rings story without the third book. Just like you can’t say it’s a complete authentic version of classic without cross realms. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like them. I don’t like them. But what else are we going to change while we are at it?
There have to be some conveniences or in time there will be no community left and Blizz will pull the plug on the whole thing.
So keep pumping the pitchforks.
I want Classic to LAST and that will take subs.
It’s not even about convenience. It’s about being authentic. I want the full 1.12 experience.
I’m against them, but i’ll accept them all the same, 1.12 means 1.12, included CRBGs.
No, actually it’s akin to saying my favorite chapter of The Lord of the Rings was…pick a chapter. They’re all part of the series.
You’re saying that only the last chapter has relevance. That’s simply not true. It holds no more value than any other part of the books.
I’m for them simply to keep queue times reasonable. Before they existed, it took 1 hour+ for WSG/AB and 5+ hours for AV on my server.
You want to cut it entirely from my understanding, you want cross realm BGs to never show up in classic.
I don’t care if cross realms are added at the start. I don’t care if they’re added at phase six.
I care about them being there because they were a part of Vanilla.
Part. Part. PART. You know what was also part of Vanilla? Battlegrounds without cross-realm bgs. And it was a much larger part.
Yes. I’m saying that’s fine. Have that from when they put in BGs.
But during phase six. Put cross realms. Because that is authentic.
I want cross realm BGs to exist at some point in classic.
But NOT 1.12 Just STOP man You wont even listen.
No, put in bgs without cross-realm and assess. Putting them in just to put them in? What’s the point in that? Why address an issue that might not exist?
It’s not that I don’t listen. It’s because this isn’t true. 1.12 is the foundation. That’s all.
Sounds to me like he’s doesn’t even want them to come in a later phase.
Also his argument falls apart because Naxx only existed in part of Vanilla. Best leave out Naxx too since it as only in Vanilla a few months more than cross realm BGs.
Also didn’t they say they want to support classic realms for 10+ years? If they did, cross realm BGs would help with that.
Single realm BG’s were also authentic and were authentic far longer than cross realm BG’s.
What makes your desired convenience of cross realm BG’s more authentic than single realm BG’s?
Both are authentic.
IMO, it comes down to classic mindsets generally preferring single realm BG’s and retail mindsets with a focus on convenience and instant (figure of speech, not literally “instant”) gratification preferring cross realm BG’s.
It remains to be seen which Blizzard will favor. Until such time as they let us know what that decision is, all we can do is voice our opinions.
Both are not authentic in a 1.12 setting. 1.12 is when cross realm BGs existed. And since they said they don’t want to touch the 1.12 data. Removing that feature would be going against what they said.
I understand your argument. Don’t think that I don’t. But we need to apply the 1.12 context.
Football has changed over the years. But if we are going to recreate a 1912 version of the game. We need to have the 1912 ruleset. Not rules from 1899, even though some of the rules may be present in the 1912 ruleset. We need 1912 rules.
We’re going for 1.12 authentic. And it would be cool if they gated it. So that it shows up in phase six.
Hi Fesz. It’s time for your daily reminder:
YOU DONT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE!! Nor do I or anyone else.
Did you hear me? ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
However, I am curious my unbending friend, what was the highest Xpack you ventured into?
Yes, they are. And I’ve said both are authentic. If it’s 1.12 that’s still an authentic Vanilla recreation. And so is if they don’t use cross-realm bgs. But some people in this thread simply can’t admit that.
So to me it becomes a question of which fits better into the Vanilla mold. Single-server bgs promote better behavior. Your reputation will matter. Your name means something. You’ll develop friendships and rivalries. Players will gain fame and notoriety.
Cross-realm bgs promote…well, exactly what Current WoW does: mindlessly grinding on random strangers. And possibly slightly shorter queues.
You can see the kind of player both stances appeal to. I would argue that the former fits much better into the Vanilla atmosphere, while the latter is aimed at convenience and efficiency. But convenience and efficiency aren’t going to keep people playing in a static mmo. It HAS to be about the experience.
People would do well to notice that this is called WoW Classic, not WoW 1.12.
Was I speaking for every one or did I specifically say that it was my opinion?
As for expansions, I have purchased every expansion through legion. I have not purchased BFA, although I did BETA test that expansion.
I’m not sure what the relevance is since I have already indicated that I appreciate both retail and Classic for what they ARE and not what I want them to be.