Yes, they were part of vanilla for a short time.
Most of those preferring a truer classic experience would prefer to single realm BG’s, which were ALSO part of vanilla. In fact, single realm BG’s were part of vanilla far longer than the BG cancer that is cross realm BG’s were.
No Cross Realm. It is not needed. It isn’t warranted. And is one of the reasons that began the eventual decline of the game. Look at the joke of a game people play now. There are always starting points and this was one of them.
If they have to include Xrealm it should only be during naxx launch. We want Classic not some QoL Classic Retail experience.
Well I am glad you reported them!
But the vast pool of anonymity encourages such behavior in the first place. Known cheaters will be much more effectively managed within a server community IMO.
If they release CRBGs I can live with it, but definitely think the game is better off without. It was a stepping stone to LFD.
What is a truer classic?
Who is to say my experience with vanilla isn’t an authentic one? I had cross realm BGs in my vanilla experience. Is that not authentic enough?
Ion said… they want someone who played in 2006 to wake up from a long nap and have the same experience.
Cross realm BGs would be in that experience for the person who played 1.12 in 2006.
It could also be said:
Were single realm BG’s part of vanilla? YES.
Therefore classic should have single realm BG’s.
The point is that both single realm AND cross realm BG’s were part of vanilla, and either one in classic would be in keeping with vanilla.
I would prefer single realm BG’s, but as I have stated before, when it comes to Classic, I have a classic mindset and favor community over convenience.
People who are so anti-cross realm bgs, im going to assume you never experienced the pain of being on a dead server. You can sit here and pretend you are just going to wpvp until you realize there is nobody to attack. Coming across one person every hour or so, you can’t even rank up at a certain point if you are just wpvping especially on a dead server.
You guys got to chill out and look at the whole picture/others and not just for yourself
It could also be said:
What version of vanilla did Blizzard say they’ll be basing Classic off of? 1.12.
They haven’t. So they don’t know the pain of being on a low pop server.
They’ve also never played during downtime.
I’m just concerned what is going to happen if Latin America gets a classic realm. They already don’t have enough players so Blizzard bunched them up with NA. Same with oceanic players. Not enough players, so they bunch them up.
Look at Stormrage. 99% alliance. Area 52. 99% horde.
You’re going to have realms where within a year faction imbalance will happen. People will be complaining about queues and your choice will be a server transfer or wait 30 minutes for a queue, maybe longer.
Remember in 1.12 when the only raids were MC and Ony, there was no honor system, and no battlegrounds? Because that’ll be Classic release. In other words…saying Classic will exist in the state of 1.12 is already off the table.
I think this is a dumb argument. Because when phase six happens, it will be full on 1.12. So cross realm BGs better be there.
I remember waiting 45 minutes or more for queues at times; this didn’t bother me. Knowing it would take a while, I played accordingly: doing profession tasks, grinding, or whatever.
You may find it ok, billy joe next to you might be ok as well. But stumble into the battleground forums. Look at the massive qq threads about que times. WITH cross realm bgs.
Starting to see the picture?
They were added to address something that might not even exist in Classic: faction imbalance. You’re trying to fix something that might not even be broken.
Besides, cross-realm bgs are much more in-line with TBC philosophy than Vanilla. Vanilla is about community, reputation, your name mattering. Cross-realm bgs negate all that. They were put in in preparation for the arena system that required that technology.
But they were put in. That’s what matters.
We’re going for authentic. Not what is the best. Cross realms battle grounds were authentic.
If we’re going for what is best. Change up the talents. Make a frankenpatch.
Yes I remember when CRBGs were introduced and the “reasons” for doing so. There is upside and downside.
Yeah, and not having cross-realm bgs is also authentic… In fact, bgs existed far longer in Vanilla without cross-realm bgs.
If you haven’t witnessed this then you are very lucky. Often times a player is not interested in the joy of BG competition, they only want fast honor and out. If things start to go against their team they will start calling for everyone to give up and lose fast so they can get out and requeue. Few things are more maddening to those of us who want to really play.
Lol what? Their is no might.
Popular streamer picks a side on one server, all his followers fall behind them
Youtuber makes dope PvP video, ppl love it and follow suit. (Happened a lot back then)
Youtuber/good player bob shares his min max build which involves a particular race, people follow
We are in a “go with the meta” era of gaming. Faction imbalance will be a thing unless blizz steps in.
Release few realms, let them be stressed at high pop, and don’t merge queues.
At which point why are we even arguing about whether cross-realm BGs should exist or not?
When we get to the relevant portion of Classic’s lifespan when BGs are added, I think it’s fairly safe to say Blizzard will just be implementing cross-realm BGs right away.
I’d much rather Blizzard stick to “we’re doing 1.12” than pick and choose which parts of each patch they liked, or even worse, which parts of each patch the people on these forums liked.