Or I could speak up about what I would like to see now before we get to the point of no return like we had in alpha the last two xpacs.
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Thatâs fine, but Iâm speaking up too.
Conflicting opinions are fineâhealthy evenâso long as they donât devolve into argumentative drivel.
I think the flightâall of the movement, reallyâneeds overhauled in WoW. Itâs all so basic at this point.
Heck, I think we need other types of mounts too. The leapers in Everquest 2, for example, are hilariously fun. You just pick a direction and yeet yourself hundreds of yards.
I donât need every time I walk to the car to be a party. If I feel like being entertained by getting from one place to the other in the most expedient manner possible, Iâll take a flight path and watch a Youtube video in the meantime.
Teleporting to map points at the press of a button would be EVEN BETTERâŚtoo bad they ditched the Flight Whistle, their last desperate scramble to undo people wanting flying, somehow.
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What if the Dragon mounts are faster? They also apparently have talent tree abilitiesâcould that foreshadow danger in flight, something our mounts canât help us with?
Arguably one of the dumbest decisions in WoW history.
If we canât fly our own mounts day 1, 95% of the playerbase will quit.
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Is the majority asking for this though? Iâve never really had anyone complain about flying beyond pathfinder.
If it ainât broke, donât fix it!
That is on devs for failing to make anything to do with it. Leave flying as is and build things you can do while flying. They had the perfect chance to try out things in ZM.
Have some engaging and fun content centered around flying! Think like flying through hoops or through an obstacle course where if you succeed without hitting edges you get a treasure, puzzles, fighting flying mobs while on your flying mount, secret hidden rare mobs/toys/mounts/easter eggs that require flight to get to.
Thereâs so many NEW THINGS YOU COULD TRY AROUND FLYING!
DEVS: birds attack you and mawsworn dismount you if you fly. FUN!
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I like travel/exploration in games though. Itâs a cornerstone of openworld gamesâas are fast travel systems, but we have those in the form of flightpaths.
I just see room for improvement and how the system could evolve to be really good. I donât know that it will, but it could.
Mounts in, say, Guild Wars 2 are SO much better than in WoW. Heck, mounts in Everquest 2 are better than in WoW and that game came out around the same time. lol
The dragon mounts are faster. Ion literally said it in an interview.
The things are supposed to be well faster than mounts we currently have.
Their are maybe 2 or 3 places you can do that where you donât end up flying off the edge of the map in a minute or two. Shadowlands zones that allow flying are not one of them, unless you are getting up, stretching, and sitting right back down.
Such a ridiculous statement.
I challenge anyone to actually do this.
Go to ZM, fly up as high as you can go and turn on auto run. Now get up and walk away from your computer. Go do literally anything other than sprint right back to your computer.
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Thatâs a fair take.
I think maybe it has to do with folks being content with what they have, even if it could be improved.
I donât know that this is an improvement but it looks like a lot of fun.
The open world in WoW has become so boring to the point that I avoid it at all costs and just hop from instance to instance. Iâm hoping that this sort of dynamic gameplay is a sign that thatâll change in the future.
But it may not be.
How slow do you move?
I get up, go get some coffee, come back, and am typically somewhere near to where I wanted to be.
Iâm talking gone for maybe 30 seconds to a couple of minutes depending on the size of the zone/where I am going but itâs certainly doable if you have even the faintest grasp on distance/time. lol
Also, in specific regards to ZM, itâs so small that itâs not necessary. A bit of an outlier though if you consider ALL of WoWâs zones.
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Just chill out. If you dont like it, then dont play it and play something else like Fortnite.
Not slow at all, but my computer isnât next to my kitchen or bathroom.
I also have a dog who loves to âhelpâ me get things.
ZM is the current content, and afk flying is useless there by your own admission. Who cares about years old content? I could afk auto run on my ground mount too if not for all the little snares and snags they littered the ground with and be fine. Should we get a stamina bar and can only run for short distances? That sounds super engaging and it works for other games!
BTW, here is a full quote about what we can look forward to:
[Dragonriding] is very fast and fluid, itâs arcadey,â Jeremy explains. âYou press the spacebar and you do a giant takeoff. And then the whole mini-game is that youâve got height and speed and you have to try to figure out how to get as far as possible before you land again. And it should feel like youâre swooping and diving through these landscapes. With giant zones the two ended up working really well together. Youâre gonna move really fast when dragonriding too, much faster than existing mount speeds. Taking off there should be a giant gust of wind and a big flap of your wings,â Jeremy adds. âOur environment team is doing a great job incorporating things like more cloud layers so that you can fly through clouds and get that feeling of moving really fast. And then as you start to speed up and go faster and faster youâll see particles fly off your wings. And eventually that turns into contrails.â
âA big push was to make the experience of moving around the world feel more three dimensional,â Jeremy continues. âThat idea of conservation of momentum, of caring about when you stop, because you donât want to stop, you want to keep going fast. How do I get from A to B as fast as possible? Finding those different spires to jump off of becomes an interesting thing to look for as youâre traversing the world.â
Jeremy Feasel, via AusGamers
For all those players who were like, âYou donât need to fly! WoWâs not a flight sim!â:
WoW is now a flight sim.
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I hate it, but youâre right. But I hate it.
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I expect you will have to grind out rep to earn unlocks that will permit you to spend currency to upgrade your dragon.
Thatâs absolutely hilarious. They donât do unique. Unique = Only one in the entire game.
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He was very careful in his wording and never said once we would be able to use our regular mounts to fly around.
âbut it is not going to fully replace your mounts while you are thereâ
ârunning around areas you are still going to use your broad collection of mountsâ
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My computer is on the other end of the house and I have a husky that DEMANDS attention constantly. haha
Iâll be honest, a stamina bar isnât really a problem if it only exists to serve as a âsprintâ function, like it does in most other games. If itâs 100% of the time itâs not as good.
Also, I donât really have any reason to fly around Shadowlands. I just teleport everywhere with my dungeon teleports/engineering ports/mage ports/hearthstone, et cetera. So many ways to just ignore the world.
But ideally you shouldnât want to ignore the world. If you do, it means theyâre doing a bad job of engaging people (and I think they are.)
Yeah, Iâm familiar with the quote. It sounds like it could be really cool if they handle it properly.
If they donât, just like anything else, it wonât beâbut weâll have to see.
Discounting it immediately I think isnât fair though.
This is accurate, it was left intentionally ambiguous. Which could be a bad sign or not. Something weâll have to see.
I think itâs reasonable for players to immediately discount what they can see is clearly a strategy for flight removal. Theyâre going to do this to the playerbase and finish off what they started in WoD.
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