"You want mythic gear for logging in!"

Again you’re clueless.

Addon setup - What addon? Please list them all since you like your list right
discover rotation - wowhead/icyvien says hi. And tank rotation are so easy a monkey can do it
enchant/gems/food - That’s everyone in the raid not just tanks

I’ll give you finding the right guild.

Define rubbing the right shoulders?

Let see…DBSM, Raid Warnings, threat meter, dps meter…thats off the top of my head I’m sure there are more.

Which adds on an extra layer of research just to play the game properly or “competitively”.

Which is still time consuming if they, again want to be competitive or optimal.

Well there’s no guarantee that even if you did all of that you’d get a raid spot in a dedicated group without knowing someone first particularly if you’re inexperienced or don’t have a gaggle of guild friends at your beck and call to do raids or group activities.

Those for a newcoming or average player are alot of barriers of entry to an otherwise hostile and gatekeeping community, who insist nothing is wrong as the game slowly falls in around them.

:roll_eyes: you dont even know the addon’s name. And everyone not just tank has that. Downloading is hard for you I guess.

:rofl: you’re making yourself look smart here yet you just double up on what dbm does.

Irrelevant since 2010. Stay in classic ard :wink:

Nah you’re making things up now :wink:

ok let’s talk “competitive” since that’s your buzz word now. If you’re talking about competitive in a competitive guild. Guess what it’s not just tanks who are expected to perform. The dps and heals are expected to perform as well otherwise they can benched. Again you’d know this if you’re doing the content. You’re just full of buzzwords you have no clue what it’s all about

You mean like looking at wowhead for your optimal enchant/food/gems and buying it in the auction house and use it. Most guild at the high level dont even buy their food and flask since it’s being provided by the guild. Again you’d know this if you’re doing the content

There’s never a guarantee of any raid spot at a high “competitive” level if you dont perform. Again you’d know this if you’re doing the content :wink:
If the tank is inexperience dont go into high end guilds. If anything play a dps/heal 1st. There are only 2 tank spot for a guild. Ofcourse you’ll find it hard to get into guild as main tank. And who’d want to tank raids anyways. It’s hella boring. Why’d you think I quit tanking in raids

Well until it’s made easier or Blizzard stops throwing all their eggs into one basket when it comes to WoW then it’ll continue to stagnate until there is nothing left.

Did I just made you speechless Ard :exploding_head:

No I have better things to do with my time than speak to someone who clearly hates me.

ahh so in terms of better things to do you mean “I have no rebuttal on what you said and I rather turn tail” Typical Ard. But feel free to prove me wrong since I know you’re very knowledgeable on “competitive” content. You play high end all the time right :wink:

I was talking about newcomers but you don’t seem to be interested in player growth whatsoever.

any newcomer who would want to learn will learn. Anyone who doesn’t will be like you :wink: Want an example. Let’s look at JPC. Started playing in BFA. Learn to play well and now raiding w/ Limit

Numbers tell a different story.

It’s been a long time since Blizzard has release subscription numbers.

…I also don’t see them winning many gaming achievement awards. Though I did see all their games got review bombed recently. That counts for something, no?

The dragonflight review bomb was just stupid homophobes throwing a fit.
They sadly made it impossible to tell what people actually think about the expansion.
Its pretty annoying.

I think it was more the D4 crowd.

They did not like that patch.

And yet you follow it

So tell me where did you get this “numbers” of yours

That none are posted by Blizzard when they once did is telling enough.

This game is ultimately only being ran by a skeleton crew and it shows in the quality of patches we get.

so where did you get your figure that population is declining then?

Are you secretly a blizzard employee?

Like any player who plays, you can experience the cracks first hand when doing Time Rifts.

wasn’t my question Ard.

If I had that kind of privilege…do you think I would be here now, speaking to you?

So basicly you’re saying you’re not a secret blizzard employee?

I can neither confirm or deny that.

Though I’m sure you’ll reach your own conclusion as you often do.