Then why would you want to risk doing that to OG Vanilla?
Then you’ll enjoy SoD which is literally classic universe with changes to make the game more enjoyable
But this is the popular server mom.
In a month it’ll be a ghost town.
My noob guild I joined on day 1 had 250 in it. Today during prime time it has 50. In a month it’ll probably only have 5
I want #SomeChanges. I want to play in the old world, with the design philosophies of the old world. But, our understanding of the game and technology has involved so we’re okay with some QOL changes.
Look, the wide screen models are already supported that is some changes, back in the day on a CRT these resolutions wouldve been impossible.
Auto loot didn’t exist.
Some basic class balancing to let people play what they want would be okay too. Its why so many are rushing warriors cause they prevail.
I want classic with only raids available being MC and BWL/onyxia. No AQ/naxx/ZG! Heh
Feel like world pvp should be the main focus of endgame and fighting over resources. And then have events that increase the spawn rate/amount gathered during the event.
The changes they have already made are good, we don’t need anymore. SoD showed how too many changes make the game something other than Vanilla.
Every class has something they’re best at. Healers now have dual spec to help them when they are not in a group. Shadow priests and Locks are no longer handicapped because of a debuff limit. Good job Blizz, you achieved a good balance.
Fun fact: The original WoW website had pages about each class. Shaman’s said they could tank.
Dwarf mages existed
But these things didnt pan out even though it was in writing and originally intended
Do you see the problem here?
The No Change crowd either did not truly experience a functional beta known as Vanilla or disregard playing on an altered patch. Warriors need to be slapped with a bat and classes within the B tier or lower need brought up.
Sod has barely any support\tuning and the game is seasonal and they tried lots of stuff and some stuff worked and some different. People dont want a seasonal classic plus, they want actual classic plus permanent servers.
If you don’t like the game don’t play it. No need to be hostile to those that enjoy vanilla for what it is rather than what they want it to be.
I do not believe anything I have said is hostile but fact. The majority of the No Change crowd also suffer from the Mandela Effect. It is not vanilla, there is QOL changes that have been baked within Classic.
Literally telling people they suffer from mental illness because they prefer a museum piece.
The effect has nothing to do with mental illness. People misremember the past especially for something that was released 20 years ago. Dunno what you are trying to defend.
You can only imagine people wanting to play vanilla from your own perspective because the only reason you would play it is out of nostalgia, but some of us just genuinely like the game as it was.
There is no problem with someone that plays retro console games or PC emulators, but the moment it’s about WoW people are just confused and don’t actually want what they want.
There is nothing inherently wrong about someone looking for a more faithful recreation of any version of the game. They don’t have to suffer from mass delusions to do so. I don’t make this accusation towards TBC or Wrath players, and they don’t make this accusation towards us vanilla players. It’s only retail players that drone on about nostalgia, and ironically are only remembering the game from 20 years and not how it is today.
I just want to log into a DK before the nerfs and smash Classic to dust with it. Oh and with full BoA!
they seethe when u try to explain this
Given that this in response to OP where they are taking grievance with people on the forums asking for:
“tune classes”
“More raid drops”
“Too many warriors”
“Leveling is too slow”
I think it is safe to say they want class revamps, in which case it is not disingenuous. At the very least they are advocating for more than just “minor qol changes,” given the context of this thread.
Outside of minor QoL changes, people who take issue with the topics OP posted, should literally just try one of the many other versions of WoW that fits their desires, like SoD. It is clearly the best fit.
I started playing in open beta and I’m more #nochanges than the majority who are around these days.
It’s not that I don’t remember the patch cycles of Vanilla, I wasn’t a kid and I played it quite a bit and I remember it clearly. I’d LOVE to see a release that goes through the patches of Vanilla with the changes that it had (it will never happen officially so this is more of a dream).
Classic 2019 was not Vanilla but IMO it had 95% of the “feeling of” Vanilla. It seemed like the devs who brought it back were genuinely trying to make the game as similar as they could within a budget and time constraints. The “thriving for authenticity” no longer seems to be the case - at all. These days it seems to be more about about reinventing the wheel.
The more you change it the less authentic it feels.
You say that most people who are #nochanges did not play Vanilla, from what I’ve seen most people who view their character as not their class but their spec did not start in Vanilla, but in TBC or Wrath (or later).