That is based on their interpretation of the novels and other Lore. NOW on the other hand to the title of this thread. The main story’s lore SHOULD always be in game, I shouldn’t have to buy a book to find out the main Villians motives. the books should be side characters getting their own adventures
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So you are defending WoW. Well, at least we finally got that out of you.
But, I disagree. As a player from vanilla, the in game story presentation was horrible from the start and was only made acceptable because it had already been hashed out in other games.
WoW has always depended on outside sources to coherently tell the in-game stories
I’m defending the wow long gone. Back when it used to be a good game.
Other than Vanilla, quest text has largely just been used for fluff with most of the important story parts being scripted in-game or shown via a cutscene.
I would agree that WoW’s narrative style needs to evolve as it feels dated and inadequate. They keep trying to use the same formula that started in WoD and it only worked then because the story was more straight forward and the character and elements didn’t need an introduction. It simply doesn’t work in Shadowlands. I imagine it won’t work next expansion either.
How is FF14 complex? It’s a quite simple story, but everything is told ingame and the whole game revolves around the story. WoW is much more complex with it’s clusterf…ish of a story that is constantly retconned, divided over countless books, cinematics and interviews and even when you’re willing to consume all these things, it’s just unnecessarily convoluted and badly written.
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Not at all. You don’t have to repeat the story on every job. And it doesn’t take place somewhere boring with little actual content, where you can’t fly.
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I mean, sure, that’s a good point. It could happen, but I’ve never seen it happen and I’ve been watching Nobbel’s videos for the better part of a decade now and he has never omitted information as far as I know.
I was also moreso trying to point out the irony where he says some youtubers go at WoW with an agenda, while citing T&E as a pair of youtubers that don’t
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Many Youtubers are biased against a certain faction, or certain writers. Also, Accolonn.
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Lol! No.
It’s not popular right now because everything is either a “wink wink, nudge nudge” moment explaining nothing, lore bits not explained leaving everyone having to wait for some expletive here novel to release with uninteresting characters to boot.
This entire expansion we’ve been running around with little to no answers for anything. That’s why it’s not popular. Blizzard screws up what Ff does right. And I’ve never been one to use ff for anything in an argument.
I’m going to hazard to guess it’s probably they don’t have the tech for the time to keep track of books in the world you’ve read in the same sort of vain as you would collect toys for your toybox or Tmogs for your Wardrobe.
Though i have a feeling this would be something that Addon makers will definitionally fill the gap in, considering it’s just books. On the go lore whenever you need it. As well tell you where you could find those books via TomTom.
Not books, just third party in general. But with the writing team as it is, even that won’t help anymore since it’ll start contradicting itself 
You mean they haven’t started contradicting themselves already?!
Shh, I’m trying to give 'em some false credit 
For me its:
First, lore from the game via quests, books, texts, side quests.
Second, lore from the Chronicles Trilogy.
Then, all the Lore plot holes are filled by my headcannons, when i cannot figure it
out i come here with u guys.
Any lore out from comics, novels, for my own sake i dont consider them “canon”, just confuses me, like the war of thorns, and the last book that put a dark portal on the first invasion or whatever.
No.
Text the player can keep was tech in Vanilla. Green Hills of Stranglethorn, etc. There are endless examples of pages/books that the player could keep in their inventory.
It was just done poorly in SM. With no thought about the RPG part of it.
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If you watch Nobel87 you can hear in his voice his exasperation with the retconing and childish story lines that attempt to pass for lore these days. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him follow other content creators in abandoning Warcraft.
Even Christie Golden doesn’t seem to be “in the loop” with all the constant lore changes which is why her book is delayed until almost April.
Nobel or Novel, it doesn’t seem to matter. The lore is in such a spaghetti state that most people have stopped caring at all.
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Even better…up to 50 there is only 1 grrrr faction war story. Each sides deployed zone attack. Horde hits the valley, alliance hits zuldazar. After that 20 minutes…never again do you attack the other side. Other 2 zones for deployment are level locked. And nothing to do with killing the other side.
All the actual war bits are post 50 play. You know…in shadowlands. Newbs should start in MoP as an option. the first 2 hours of it has more faction hate to it than all of bfa really.
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Feyrre for Community Council 2022!!!
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And how did they find out about whats going on? Hurr Durr 
Even better, look at each and every single one of their reactions to the lore changes.
Even Accolon hates it and that dude loved the cosmic stuff lmao.
Danuser is known for being a fan of transmedia. Putting bits and pieces in separate places. Not good for storytelling in this scenario. Oh, and the story is also hot garbage.
translation.
wE JuSt waNt yOuR MonEy - lizzard “the bad” tainment (where we have no idea what we are doing, oh look breast milk…) - that’s this sh it company, to lazy to do anything “gud”
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