Illidan and Arthas were villains that showed up out of nowhere and were cosmic gods that wanted to do some vague bad thing that we must stop? I know you LOVE to defend wow but you’re honestly trying to defend its current story? How much are they paying you?
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Where have I tried to defend the current story at all?
You may need to see a doctor, because apparently you are hallucinating comments that were never made.
To reiterate for you since you are struggling…In-game WoW story telling has always been horrible and many (possibly most) players don’t care.
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Keep defending wow like you always do. It can do no wrong and is the perfect game.
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only books reading Lore wise are the chronicles ones.
I don’t think that’s true. I’ve read a lot of the books and I read the text for quests (multiple times probably) and there are plenty of things that are not explained in the game that I would never had been able to put together the way I can because of the books. Many of the main characters don’t seem the same once you know more about them, they are less one dimensional I guess.
Imo the best expansion at explaining the lore through the game was WoD. The reason we were there was explained, how it all happened explained, the characters had stories, everything came together in a great way while leveling. We saw the relationships characters have with each other in it.
After that though legion, bfa, and shadowlands the main story that is driving it all has become a muddled mess imo. It was “this happened” but then “no no no… this happened because of THIS!” Sort of thing where I feel they did more reexplaining to make things make sense then actually moving along.
It’s just it used to be simpler to understand what we were fighting for I suppose. I like shadowlands for some of the smaller details it brings us, but the bigger picture is trying too much to make it work. Even worse than that, they are dipping their toes into the lore that gave our story some magical and mysterious element and making it seem less grand in a way. That might be the biggest disappointment for me.
We will be handing quests in to Elune soon enough. 
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I mean to be fair, the story has never been great and has a million holes. The only difference we have a new consumer culture now. Everyone is an expert and critic today and that didn’t exist in '04. All we needed to know back then was that we good and they bad and thats why we fight. Social media era has turned everyone into armchair writers.
and that’s across media. There are no good books, movies or game stories anymore. Just hundreds of youtube videos on why the writing of said media is garbage.
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Fancy. So saying something is bad now means that you are defending it?
You kids and your silly talk these days. No wonder you have such trouble communicating
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The wow story has never been THIS bad. Was it stellar writing? No but it was at least charming and passable.
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Typical troll response.
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“YouTubers only cherrypick information to spin their narrative”
Oh… oh god, the irony!
Nobbel’s lore videos are very good, some of them are hours long with all of the information. What kind of narrative do you think a lore youtuber is going to make simply showing scenes from the game and reading you excerpts from a book?
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ff bad wow good
I’d rather be oblivious as to what’s going on rather than watching some third party “content creator”, lol
they need to step up their in-game story stuff
I thought I taught you better than that.
Idk, it gets pretty up there. Malfurion, Arthas, Illidan, Sylvanas and Garrosh for example are all just walking meme fiestas in lore. You couldn’t find more thrown games from iron players in league.
We just ignored those things back then and that’s why it was able to charm. A great game design books compares this to the heisenberg problem where observing a particle changes it’s behavior thus tainting the observation and states similar with media consumption. Turning on too much analytical brain during media consumption taints the observation of the media and we see that ALOT today.
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Actually you don’t even have to care, considering how little sense the “lore” presented in-game makes. They fill the “story” with nonsensical plot twists so people will have to buy those books.
Player who turns 50 and goes to BfA gets the quest “Return of the Black Prince.” Who? Am I supposed to know about this guy? Yeah, whatever.
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I really don’t know what to say at this point.
I agree you with that the in-game story presentation is bad and always has been…but somehow you think that is defending WoW.
If we can’t agree on that simple point then there is no real point in continuing this conversation because it seems you are way more interested in defending WoW than I am.
I tawt I taw a pussy cat. 
I’m not saying this happens but would it be unreasonable to believe that someone doesn’t like a writer and omits information that writer created?
It’s never been this bad. I don’t know how else to say it.
Actually, if we are comparing MMO story presentation than ESO is probably the best.
The game provides a ridiculous amount of lore for those looking for it but doesn’t force it on average players that don’t care. The story isn’t on rails and there are very few cutscenes