You have 2 weeks

What if I told you that it’s not a huge deal to be a few weeks behind. People were months behind in classic and still managed to get in a guild and progress through content

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well if progressing through content is the benchmark then not sure what to say… Completing a raid is not what most people play for. No one running around flexing because they killed KT because so did everyone else

The stats of how many guilds raid says otherwise.

Are you going for world firsts or something?

In classic it takes 6-7 days of /played to level a char to 60 unless you are REALLY inefficient. Trust me, i’ve done both grinding and questing across mutliple characters.

In the prepatch it should be closer to 3-4 days /played. I’d wager 70-80 hours across 14 days is reasonable time required for most people (As in, most people would hit 60 in that much time played). That’s 5-5.7 hours a day (Still high, but also quite a bit less than other estimates are showing.)

Assume 10 hours a day on 4 weekend days, that’s half the time right there. That leaves you with 3-4 hours a day outside of that. You’ve also got memorial day in there.

And that’s to hit 60. TBC is kinda considered to start at 58. That’s when you can reasonably enter outlands and succeed. It’s also why that’s the boost level. That’ll take off another 8 hours or so of leveling.

So, if you want to enter outlands on launch day (as level 58), you’re looking at maybe 63 hours or so (31 a week, 20 on weekend and 2 a day on weekdays) With memorial day to relax and spend with family.

It IS rushed, but doable.

raiding is a means to and end… people want to parse, they want to “finish” their characters, maybe finally get that DFT that’s been ever elusive for them, etc. Being able to say I killed KT is not really the point or else people would stop after the first time doing so if that was the goal. Which to my early point, people want to try new specs and yes with new raid comps introducing shaman or pally and 2 raid cycles is too few imo.

So what is your point here?

You can do all those things if you are 2 weeks later to 70

It’s a 30% exp nerf. How are you estimating that it’ll take 40-50% less time to level when the xp nerf is only 30%?

6-7 days of /played is 144 - 168 hours.
You’re estimating that most people will now be able to get it done in 72 - 96? Come on dude, be real.

And even then, you acknowledge that with your own (probably low) estimate, people would have to play an average of 5-6 hours a day for 2 weeks. That’s uh… a fulltime job. On top of a lot of players being adults that have actual fulltime jobs.

I don’t disagree that is technically possible, but acting like “it’s okay, you don’t need to be upset” is just tone-deaf.

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point is that prepatch is too short lol… as mentioned several times. There is lots of content there and it will be missed because no people won’t just hang back and do it and be late to 70, including myself. That would be ridiculous.

how short do you think t4 is going to be?

People are going to be running Karazhan, mags and Gruuls for months. 2 vs 4 weeks - how long were you planning on taking to get to 70?

The world record for solo warrior horde 0-60 is about 4 days 30hours I believe. If warrior can solo to 60 in 4 days /played then every other class should be slightly faster.

Honestly, I think most people are just excited to be able to play TBC finally.

Completing a raid is exactly what most people who play regularly play for these days. Classic is full of try hards now.

I don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore lol. Do you really think people will play “pre-patch content” if TBC is out? no, they will not, it doesn’t make sense. People will move on to TBC. The point has always been, there is lots of prepatch content that can be done/explored/enjoyed and will never be available again that is squished into 2 raid cycles

like I said, it’s a means to an end.

Why did you need an extra week or 2 of the same content but with new talents?

What are you even crying about, seriously. Did you really need an extra naxx lockout to feel something in your heart?

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short answer is yes. Because as people are trying to calculate how fast to level, they are ignoring wanting to continue other aspects of the game whilst the leveling takes place.

Thats not that bad lol
i have people saying they are going to pull 17hr+ levelling/grinding rep come launch week

Like what? For TBC its the portal event and thats it. I haven’t cared about anything classic in months now. I can’t wait for TBC. Gonna get that Tabard of the Protector again on each of my toons and get my shaman to 60 in hopefully a week. YOu mentioned DFT earlier… Who cares about that kind of stuff. It’s about Dragonspine Trophy now.

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I think you think everyone feels as you do. This sounds like a YOU problem. You wanted to do that stuff with new talents. I think you’re in the minority on that one and don’t realize it. Prepatch is gonna drop and everyone is gonna be leveling paladins/shamans and doing the portal event. Classic is over boss unless you stay in vanilla on prepatch day.

I could say the same thing to you =)

Empathy is cool.

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