That is copium. Modern PvP in wow is a lobby queue timer. Not sure that really constitutes success when you have to go against the very definition of an “MMORPG.” Its definitely an online game but I don’t see it revitalizing itself to that extent. It’ll resurrect then fall off, just like it always does.
You’re optimistic lmao.
My mom has that exact one! I think everyone did it was mass produced. It STILL hangs in her hallway to this day. You get it.
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This isn’t the insult you think it is.
New World Players: I hope you fail!
WoW Players: I don’t even think about you
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oh no!
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I wasn’t trying to be insulting.
Just happens naturally?
Son, no one cares about PVP at all in any MMO for the most part, it’s why WoW is the biggest because of PvE and the PvE experience is one of the better MMORPG elements of the genre, good luck finding this in your pvp game that’s dead a few months after it launches though.
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Your perception of events. It’s fine. If you found it insulting that’s your business.
So you think Ashes has no PvE content? That would be a strawman but go for it.
Where did I say that, in fact the thing I originally posted said it had PvE, the problem is you’re going to be flagged for PvP the entire time you’re trying to PvE and most MMO players don’t like that as was shown by new worlds massive failure until they completely changed it up.
Most of the people I’ve met on wow over the years are playing classic, and they don’t want to come back to retail. I am sure they will as I do, but a couple months every 2 years to see if the game has anything new and fun.
WoW took repetition and ran with it. I would be happier if Mythic was the only raiding, M+20 was a Mythic dungeon and heroic was a regular dungeon, oh and delete xrealm.
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I forget his name but a streamer went over why PvP MMOs do not work awhile back. Hayes? Something like that, British guy. Went into full detail how they start- evolve from chaos, then the chaos basically does them in because it just becomes everyone going out of their way to inconvenience everyone. You get tired of losing all of your stuff to mobs of “bullies” running around just to ruin everyone else’s game experience. You eventually stop wearing gear because you’re tired of losing it. Then everyone is just hitting each other with sticks and shovels.
It all leads to mass drop offs in players. The inevitable outcome is a small vanishing community that dies out. Most MMO games that try this pivot to PVE or die off.
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Multiple times over, and selectively choosing how you frame the question. It has a lot of PvE Content, then you mentioned PvP (which apparently doesn’t matter?) , but that is also why WoW is top dog.
Ashes will have pve content, but as it stands now your dungeon is not a separate instance. Other players and guilds can come into your dungeon and wipe you.
Yea I think you’re having a hard time understanding here, but just read the post above yours if you want to know why this new MMO is going to fail.
I know, I’ve been following it for years.
They never learn 
I see those harsh black shadows and desaturated palettes and go uh oh here we go again!
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Your opinions haven’t been that convincing.
That’s because I’m not trying to convince you of anything, I’m stating a fact and you yourself will see after the game launches a few months in, until that time feel free to believe what ever you want.