You cant have both! (Covenants)

Are you seriously claiming a BALANCE issue when it’s alpha? Good lord, you need to calm down.

You think actual min maxxers don’t already? Umm what…

You entire perspective is based only around how extreme casual players idle by in this very huge game. Not everyone is satisfied with mediocrity.

Yes, apparently so when people are dying because they do something they should not have. Yes. I’ve also been in many mythic raid guilds where players had actually messed up a mechanic once and just that one mess up causes the entire fight to be over. Yes, it is a mechanics issue, yes this does exist.

Oh, I’m guessing you trusted their ability to balance azerite armour and azerite traits and corruption as well? Right, right?

Yeah, nah…

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I think that min/maxers get mad because they wanna min/max every portion of a game that spoiled them to their very core being able to min/max every aspect of said game, which is also what ruined the game from an RPG perspective at that point forward and then people got used to it. Blizz now tries to bring back the RPG aspect, and players whine and complain about it because they were, again, spoiled by it.

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By “spolied” you actually mean they were just smarter then most other players.

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By spoiled I mean actually spoiled, like a child who got sweets given to them every day, then the parent says “from today onwards i will not be giving you candy every single day” and then the child cries cause they want candy.

Yes, those kids in the grocery store who cry and as you pass them you hope the parent disciplines them so they stop crying but most of the times they do not? Yep. Those.

One could think that it’s for your inability to compete that you try to bring people down to your level.

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Nope, you’re just sore you get outplayed by more intelligent people then what you’re capable of.

One could think your inability to do mechanics properly would be a reason for a wipe, too.

Sure, and your point being? Does it excuse you crying about a 2% difference? No.

And this is exactly the issue with this mentality, they arent, they arent good, they arent smarter but they BELIEVE copying a guide makes them smart even though they often can be bad players who dont understand their class, fail the mechanics yet still act like they know stuff just like i previously mentioned how bad players were telling a method streamer to use immolate even though the streamer because he KNEW HIS CLASS didnt need to and told them off

Definition of delusions 10, and when so many in games have self esteem issues they end up getting so attached to their guide worshipping that they become toxic to others.

Yes that’s what I think too when I see you have no experience in any of the hardest content.

I guess I’ll settle for both.

That’s where you’re wrong kiddo. I can complain about anything I wish to on here, as long as it’s related to the game.

Ohh so because you think you’ve done more content than me now you’ve got a better opinion? LOL your 15 dollars a month isn’t actually better than my own. If you think otherwise, cool, but I can guarantee you nah. I do actually have experience, too, but, that doesn’t matter when it doesn’t take a brain to see that you can’t actually come up with something else to argue against than that.

That’s true, you got me there. You can complain about anything you want, just like I am hoping this system would stay as a permanent thing, or be changeable maybe once a week at most.

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That is when you know the person you are trying to argue with is hopeless, because they must have serious self esteem issues to act all high and mighty in a game while games are literally DESIGNED TO BE WON AND GIVE YOU THAT FEELING.

It is like 0 self awareness, and because of that we have toxic bad players who dont know how to play the game yet go around telling others what to do, and these people need to be eradicated or suffer and covenants will do exactly that.

And thankfully based on the recent interview with Ion they are sticking with the current covenant system

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/covenants-confirmed-to-be-part-of-our-identity-thankfully

Interesting, seems like no argument of quality were made in 4 lines.

Hi Ralph, I see you like bringing more things to burn in the fire. I recommend checking yourself in the mirror before projecting unto others your lack of accomplishments.

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Fair point, I acknowledge a post with a point I literally couldn’t counter. I don’t think there is a counter to that arguement, to be fair, as they were correct and could complain about anything they wanted to.

I will say, that my point about mythic raiding getting soft nerfs still stands, though, and has not been countered yet.

Just to condense my point since my snarkiness might have tempered it. I think it’s both mechanics and dps that win you fights. There’s a lot of bosses with decent dps checks at time, hence why they normally nerf the hp of bosses after hall of fames close recently. But for sure all bosses have mechanics that will normally kill you.

Yes, and I was not saying that they did not. What I was hinting at, is, everyone could pull off decent DPS. They tune fights to be a minimum set amount of raid-wide DPS, not each player having to pull a specific set out of their character or fail. With “decent” dps, this is achieveable with a lot of different talent setups, not all, but a number of different ones more than just cookie cutter will do. This is also achievable via gear, and in this patch, corruption carries you hard, too. You could literally slack off with talents and just having Infinite Stars rank 3 you will still achieve as high or close to it, as if you min/maxed without having Infinite Stars. Yes, min/maxed while having it would be a much greater thing, but it is not 100% essential to anything that isn’t a pure dps check.