You cannot convince me that the s4 mount recolor wasn't planned

Probably because the S4 Gladiator mount does look noticeably different than the past 3.

One had Black Armor, One Had Vibrant Red, One Had Silver, and S4 has Bronze. They are all distinct colors.

Just because you want something more unique doesn’t mean it isn’t unique.




Please tell me with a straight face you can’t tell those apart even if it was just one of them. Meanwhile, if I placed the original S4 M+ mount next to the one people complained about…


I doubt you could tell the difference in game unless you saw both of them side by side.

Yes the plan was to release the space frogs as the main 7th cosmic force

One had Black Armor, One Had Vibrant Red, One Had Silver, and S4 has Bronze. They are all distinct colors.

This is irrelevant as you can make the same claim for M+ mounts – one was black, one was red, and one was seafoam green, and S4 was turquoise/dull cyan (agree that they are similar at a glance…)

Please do your due diligence as a member of the community council and read my other posts.

Just because you want something more unique doesn’t mean it isn’t unique.

Also, please do your due diligence and “tell me with a straight face” that I’m the only person saying these things. If you had read my other posts, you would find

this: this is an album of some tweets regarding other players asking for a recolor for the s4 gladiator mount after seeing blizzard is “willing to listen to feedback” regarding mount colors.

Please tell me with a straight face you can’t tell those apart even if it was just one of them. Meanwhile, if I placed the original S4 M+ mount next to the one people complained about…

Here is my straight face answer: (which you could gather from other posts, had you read them)

You can see, that the colors of the M+ mounts are more similar to each other than that of the S4 gladiator mounts. Both in body + body armor.

I. Disagree. With. You.

As I have said. I do not think they look similar at all.

Well thankfully I did some calculations of delta E for you, where you can conclude that they, while different, are less different than the M+ mounts.

Please, as a community representative, convey this opinion on the community council forums. You can see evidence from other PvPers (see above) that they also think the colors are super similar–even if you do not agree.

All they do is recolor mounts as of late.

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They likely have a few people (test group/friends and family/vested contacts) here on the forums who were disappointed too. And then they saw that purple body/gold frame recommendation from a poster in the topic. Of which they passed it along to the devs.

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What’s the point of being a member on the community council if you hide your public profile?

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Well people are more likely to harass them than others. Just adds one more step for analysis if they don’t do the other steps to hide.

Don’t worry about it. Not worth the time in the end.

Gilbert asked a good question…why do you hide yourself as a CC member? People can still look you up one way or another.

Maybe. But now I can’t see if they’re actually being a valuable member of the community council and contributing quality posts and doing their duty of trying to better convey feedback to devs.

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Wait there are valuable member in community council?

Lol. I mean, they made a good reply in the Dragonflight druid talent feedback forum. I just randomly clicked on a post and saw that this member made a good comment.

But with hidden profile – don’t know if they’re just not even contributing and using their “special forum colors” (is it special? I can’t tell the difference :wink: ) to come troll in normie user threads.

That said – not a single comment mentioning the druid talent tree and its implications in pvp in that thread. Ah well.

If you’ve ever looked in the game’s files, you can see that they have a ton of recolors for pretty much everything already made…plenty of which never get used for equipment or NPCs. I’m assuming that these KSM mounts are no exception.

…and THAT is precisely why Blizzard is consistently loosing subscriptions, because the reward structure hasn’t been altered in like 18-years. You can only get so many new mounts or transmogs before you realize you’ve been had.

If they don’t introduce more RPG-inspired elements, and fast, they’ll continue to see less and less engagement with their game (and, possibly, their franchise as a whole).

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I would very much appreciate it if blizzard decided to recolor the last glad mount. I personally have already not been a huge fan of the soul eaters and the color schemes on them all just look dull and bland. It just doesn’t look very special or prestigious to me

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What exactly do you want them to add that isn’t just a step back in terms of accessibility and quality of life? They are working on talent trees, what else would you suggest?

There are tons of ways in which Blizzard might lean into, rather than way from, the roleplaying component of their game. A few suggestions from the top of my head:

  • Player Housing — This is an extremely popular request, and if done well it could offer hundreds or even thousands of hours of ancillary gameplay for players.

    • An interesting idea to help the feature appeal to more people might be to introduce something that I’ll refer to here as “Incursions”, instanced content wherein you must defend your household from any number of hostile groups from all over Azeroth. It wouldn’t be overly difficult to include with this feature a completely self-contained progression system (e.g. by playing through Incursions, players would gradually increase their “Incursion Levels”, be afforded “Incursion Talents”, and be awarded “Incursion Items”).

      You might also be able to hire “Guards” that assist you in different ways (i.e. Westfall Urchins might throw lukewarm stew on would-be assailants, while Blood Knights might be dropping Light-hammers left and right), and find/acquire different “Captains” that set the tone for your particular strategies (i.e. [Newly Conceived Void Elf Character] might prefer taking greater risks, while [Newly Conceived Tauren Character] might tend to assess situations from all angles before charging in like he’s seen red).

  • Customizable Mount — This is something they’re experimenting with in Dragonflight, and it definitely looks pretty cool… but as of now we’ve got absolutely no way of knowing if this feature will survive the expansion (and their track record with expansion features lasting longer than ~2-years isn’t stellar).

    If Blizzard would prefer that players feel immersed in their world (which is fairly important to an RPG, fundamentally), they’re going to need to make things that feel like they’re intended to be long-term investments. This is actually quite easy, as it relates to the dragon mounts in Dragonflight: with every major patch there should be new customization options available for the dragons (to include skin colors, eye colors, scale patterns, armor options/colors, adornments, magical affects, vanity interactions like Pepe, et cetera).

    And, then, when the expansion after Dragonflight comes out you don’t simply abandon the mounts we’ve grown attached to over the course of 24-30 months… instead, you introduce customization options for them that better align with whatever the next expansion is (Elemental Lords, calling it).

  • World Content

    They significantly improved upon their previous iterations of endgame zone with Zereth Mortis, but there is still a lot they can do to hold the attention of players.

    An interesting place to start might be introducing actual progression into endgame zones — incremental increases to difficulty/rewards as you contend with the enemies of the Alliance/Horde, with all sorts of vanity items to be discovered along the way.

    It wouldn’t be a bad idea to introduce “Zone Sets” that players acquire at particular points in the storyline of any given zone… offering bonuses to things that are of particular concern in those zones (i.e. a 300% increase to swim speed bonus in a zone filled with water, for example). They get extra props if the individual pieces can have their itemlevel upgraded as the patches cycle… and even more if, in doing so, the set bonuses increase as further incentivization for you to play the zones.

That was like, twenty minutes of thought. There are dozens, literal dozens, of things they can do to improve the RPG aspects of their game.

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Gladiator mounts have always been recolours between seasons. Literally always, since the first day of PvP seasons back in TBC. Every expansion has a themed mount for PvP (for BC it was the Netherdrake, for WotLK it was the Frostwyrm etc) and every season they release a different coloured version of that same mount.

It isn’t a new thing, in fact it’s the norm and always has been.