This will curb most (not all) the big demand Q complaints that we have right now. Will this potentially bust some of the servers functions like AH and other things? Might the servers be laggy? Yah, maybe a little, but overall the players will be happier that they’re playing a lagging game rather than sitting in Q for 8 hrs.
Just my 2 copper.
In before the servers cant handle it… Yes, they can, we had far more layers and more players in Vanilla Classic on launch day by a lot. Was a it a little laggy? ya, but that’s ok.
After a week most of the hype and demand will have died down and normality will have resumed.
We had more layers and more players in Classic vanilla; blizzard is fibbing to a degree.
The reason we want more layers is so that while the server caps are increased; there are more NPC’s to Quest / grind.
The server caps being increased is also required for the Q’s to get better; but it can entirely be a 5 days long thing that we can also know and accept that there will be a bit of server lag, but then everyone gets to play.
Sorry that I missed a detail but you know what I meant. I did not move the goal posts; its assumed that if you add 5 layers worth of players the caps go up with it. We had like 20 layers or something dumb in Classic vanilla… We don’t now in Classic Wrath, the servers CAN handle the increased layers / server cap.
When talking about layers and keeping it simple so everyone can understand is the best way to talk about things even if its no absolutely mechanically correct. At least normal people will understand… but then someone always has to nit-pick the thing.
I’m not sure if links to other forum posts work or not but this post outlines how you are misinformed about layers, servers, and what Blizzard is able to do.
Far too much information for me to rehash here but the part that begins with " The Mega-Realms in US and EU are full (also; Layers are not the solution)" would be a good place to start.
His data is a bit misleading, he’s comparing Classic to OG, and that’s just disingenuous to a degree; because layers exist. In OG Vanilla / TBC / Wrath / Cata / MoP there were no layers, there was no sharding… Sharding-lite (layers) is a system added in WoD if I remember correctly… maybe late mop?
The point I was making is that a temporary increase in server capacity based on 5 layers of players is a solid path forward to take the edge of the over crowded servers; a situation that BLIZZARD created by the following poor choices that were well warned in advance.
Blizzard advertised the Vanilla Classic servers as going to include CRBG’s, this created massive imbalance because the Zug’s believed fully that CRBG’s would fix it and no longer does server balance matter.
Blizzard then screwed up by not managing servers, and not locking servers to character creation in Vanilla Classic allowing for already overcrowded realms to be over crowded, and simply amping the server cap AND layers at the same time because “more layers / cap increases will fix it” because their thinking was “its just hype”.
Blizzard then messed up even worse in Phase 3 of Vanilla Classic by selling PAID server transfers and allowing for even more overcrowding of the servers and brining back Q’s on some realms.
All of these problems contributed to the situation of most of the original Vanilla Classic servers as DEAD, and only a very small number of TBC realm servers still alive; resulting in many people who returned / new players coming to WoW Classic for Wrath.
Its 100% possible to increase the server cap AND the layers for a time, Blizzard did it before, and they can do it again.
As for the situation they have now where they have too few servers, and too many players, time will tell on how many people remain long term Classic Wrath; Hype goes a long way and its not possible to know what server populations look like in 3 months.
I fully appreciate that Blizzard is finally trying to correct for the Vanilla Classic failures, but right now might not be the best time to correct for that; instead they should have been trying to correct for this during Mid TBC Classic or maybe 3 months from now Wrath Classic.
I hope Blizzard has posts like these pinned to the wall to remind themselves that no matter what they say the general clueless public will make posts about easy fixes.
Just to give a little chuckle to start the day for the team.
Kind of like fans making comments on what their favorite sports team should have “easily” done.
So yeah it seems you definitely didn’t read the blue post so I’ll help clear some things up with direct quotes from Aggrend, the WoW Classic Game Producer who made the post.
You say “The point I was making is that a temporary increase in server capacity based on 5 layers of players is a solid path forward to take the edge of the over crowded servers”
Aggrend says “We’ll start with the easiest and most clearcut statement to make. The mega-realms in US and EU that are queuing are completely full. This statement is the absolute state of things, and there is no additional capacity we can add to these realms to allow more players on, or to reduce queues.”
You say “Its 100% possible to increase the server cap AND the layers for a time, Blizzard did it before, and they can do it again.”
Aggrend says “One common suggestion we get is to “just add more layers”, and it’s very important to understand that layers do not add in any way to capacity. Layers are a Classic-specific solution to alleviate congestion in the game world in densely populated areas.”
More information can be found at the link below, I highly encourage you to educate yourself.