I’m saying that real world banks and Guild Banks have zero relevance to each other. Jebus.
to track accountability accurately. One person stealing the contents is almost exactly the same as with GBAs.
nothing will ever be 100% effective outside of not placing items in any bank.
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Except that real-world time is spent getting the in-game mats. I’d like that protected.
And none of these arguments is enough justification to overcome the “It wasn’t a part of Vanilla nor is it a necessary part of making a recreation” hurdle.
Guild banks being included is about as justified as removing DHKs.
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And yet, Blizzard thought that loot trading was enough to justify their rules. Just because YOUR opinion doesn’t match other people’s doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
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Loot Trading is a business decision by Blizzard to reduce overhead costs. The Guild Bank log isn’t enough of a justification for the same. One allows no involvement, the other is simply a ticket with a name attached. You know who had the guild bank alt. You don’t need a log to tell you they skipped town.
Then I urge you to go find and read gbank thread 1 on the old forums. This wasn’t “the last go to”. Multiple people have been saying this for months.
We have even laid out how gbanks work compared to GBA’s. Those conveniences that everyone is so worried about is shifted around depending on which user of the gbank you are and what permission level access you have.
Again. This is why there are so many replies to not just this thread but the multiple threads that reached the 500 post cap of the old forums because a lot of this is repeat because no one will read this novel and ofc our own orcishly as possible: Fez.
This topic is high elf level of post counts. Lol.
Edit: Btw I get credit as the gbank guy but I am not even the originator of the first few threads. I picked it about about thread 4 I think. Lol.
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A few months ago I’ll bet loot trading wasn’t even on your radar. Now you’re a pro in deciding what’s good for Blizzard?
The security aspect is the only argument I’ve ever talked about, and there’s no meaningful argument against it.
The biggest hole in the argument of “because it wasn’t in Vanilla” is that only players are beholden to doing things the way it was in Vanilla. This does not apply to Blizzard.
Players can pretend its 2004, but Blizzard is not pretending that.
Again, Blizzard is running a modern system, with more automation and more information and more efficient ways of handling in-game issues.
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well no, they were not in Vanilla, and as far as in game systems go, its absence isn’t something I will worry too much about.
And that’s the point. Something has to have an overwhelming fundamental need to be included in the recreation if it wasn’t there originally. Sharding, only in the starters, only for the first X days, serves a fundamental long term viability. Loot Trading at the raid level avoids serious Help Desk calls. Instance level loot trading, sheesh, run the dungeon a few more times like we did. Guild banks are a nicety, and just like Retail, everyone will create their own guild with its own guild bank.
Every change from retail needs to be weighed against the “If it wasn’t in Vanilla, do we really need it” question. Guild Banks like removing DHKs, are what people want, not what is needed.
I agree they’d be nice to have. They’d probably help sort out some in-guild squabbles over how much gold there was in the kitty, or where all the core leather went. But that’s social dynamics, something we’re all trying to get back to.
If Blizzard wanted to they’d shut this conversation down with a blue post.
They haven’t.
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I might have started one of them. Not sure.
If Blizzard posted “No” on every bad idea, they’d have to employ someone to do nothing but. The fact that they haven’t posted is probably more telling, that despite all the posts by people, it isn’t on their radar as a thing.
oh no i think GB would not effect social dynamics nearly as much as is claimed by some, but really, I don’t think the amount of people raiding(thereby needing tons of space for mats) would be such a huge issue that the way we did it back then would not be good enough.
Now if there becomes an issue later on, I can imagine that they would revisit them.
If blizz wanted to they could have squashed a lot of things. Look at the right click report thread. No one really knew how it worked in current and they just allowed the speculation to run rampant. A blue could have said hey guys we’re not quite sure how this plans out for classic yet but this is how it currently works. Continue.
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I meant we’d have to fall back on actually discussing things amongst the group, instead of just lodging ticket after ticket with Blizzard.
again, just because you think something is ‘bad’ does not make it so. Not many topics gain as much traction or post on them. They have done a pretty good job at addressing things that are being discussed.
Until it becomes a topic for them to discuss, of course. Guild banks and alts are pretty low on a list of priorities, in my opinion.
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