There is literally a place in Bastion called “The Elysium Fields.”
In Greek and Roman mythology, Elysium was the place of rest for the dead who were blessed by the gods. It was also known as the Elysian Fields or the Elysian Plain. Originally only heroes whom the gods had made immortal went to Elysium. Eventually, it became the destination of anyone who had lived a righteous life.
Fury warrior is simming the same as two tanks prot paladin and vengence DH lol. Arms isnt much better. Condemn is the only thing keeping this class up right now. Go ahead and nerf it to promote better skill priority but bring up the base class dmg if you do.
Condemn is nice but sometimes I wish I had Spear or AA. A minor but annoying reason is that Revendreth is taxing af to navigate. Second, Spear/AA has excellent usage in PvE and PvP. Third, Condemn dominates my rotation. I hate making the choice of having to condemn or MS on trash because I will lose the condemn window if I MS first. The third choice is just applicable to my OCD for taking advantage of an ability design. Fury seems better for maximized condemn usage.
I also think you’re severely under-rating the power of execute w/o Condemn. With Sudden Death + Massacre, the Condemn window is huge for arms. This, however, locks the Arms Warrior to SD+Mass and is severely punishing if you don’t align WB+DC during execute windows.
They could probably change it to above 90% health as a fix. I feel that DH’s got shafted with their venthyr ability. Metamorphosis has such a long cooldown compared to execute. Why couldn’t they have moved the ability to blade dance? Would at least make blade dance viable instead of leaving it off action bars.
my dude is out here REALLY asking for nerfs?
Like really?
This guy plays a Arms Warrior!
Sooooo you are unhappy that single target condemn spec is outperforming your aoe night fae spec…on probably short fights with few mobs…is that it? AAAAAAND your answer is to nerf condemn to bring it down to the levels of other, percieved, underperforming warriors? Look at the data…all warriors are UNDERPERFORMING compared to most other classes!!! Do me a favor and take a condemn warrior in an arena without a healer and tell me how you crush all before you.
Here is my fix: Turn off your damage meter and have fun if you really enjoy fae.
Lol, as she points out, it’s not exactly a subtle analogy they make.
You might not be condemning enough.
Found part of the problem. Run the Massacre talent man. Not only does it increase the Condemn window from 20%=>35% it decreases the cd by 1.5s. If you’re running Condemn as Fury it’s the pick for that talent row in like all content.
Funny part is he didn’t. He’s complaining about dungeon performance, where his Night Fae covenant is arguably the best one actually. He’s just not playing well and blaming it on Condemn. If he switched to Venthyr, he’d probably do less damage unless he found it easier to play better that way.
Its just a matter of someone being very upset that the Covenant they chose isn’t the best of the best. So they are insecure and comparing themselves to other warriors with different a Covenant.
Its a matter of two warriors have 50,000 dollars to spend:
So now Warrior A is upset that their sports car is not fuel efficient, and they spend a lot of time at the gas pumps while all these other warriors are driving by and making the most of it. It isn’t’ fair that the Warrior A chose the car they wanted due to appearance/performance/loyalty to the brand that now they aren’t competitive with the other electric car chosen by Warrior B.
Instead of seeing that their sport car has its own benefits in terms of, if there is no charging station available and only gas stations, they will have the upper hand. Or rather, they should demanding that this sport car manufacture fix their MPG fuel efficiency to make it up to par with the Electric car.
Warrior A is demanding that those Electric cars be forced to drive less miles before it needs a recharge, or that it not go as fast. So that Warrior A can have the upper hand in all situations because they don’t want to trade in their sports car and get an electric car.
All these covenants have their own pros and cons, some are going to be better than others. Just because the one you chose isn’t performing well, you shouldn’t complain that the others be nerfed, instead focus on asking questions on how to make yours improve, or figuring out a way to make the most of it.
Classic example of “if he gets chocolate milk with his cookies, why can’t I? I am the one that put the dishes away, all he did was take the trash out. what I did was more important why do I only get cookies. I like doing dishes, why cant I get the same treatment as everyone else, they shouldn’t get milk for taking the trash out”
The issue with nerfing Venthyr is that you now Pidgeon hole warriors into 2 covenants instead of 3… Necrolord is basically WORTHLESS for warriors. Hell in my case, I think Kyrian is the only option (I hate Night Fae theme)
The issue is Condemn becomes such a HUGE part of the class when you choose the covenant. Nerfing it will just make the class even more clunky because you now gotta choose between prioritizing MS over Condemn during certain windows and lets face it MS is hitting like a wet noodle.
And you would be 100% wrong. I get what your point is, but there is also the argument that Condemn just becomes the brain dead option. Spamming one button all day long, not exactly my cup of tea. I don’t want to see it nerfed, I’d buff Meme-banner first.
Warriors in general could certainly use some overall buffs, with no change to their play styles. The game play is nice for all specs so far. So some general buff would be nice.
The Legendary items are a different story for a different thread.
I do run the massacre talent, I do cast it every time its available unless rampage it available.
Condem is never above 21% of my damage total damage.
The only reason I even have condem is because I didnt have to add yet another button to the 43 key binds I already use. Its slightly better than execute, but it sure isnt anything game changing or super powerful.
Unless you’re going for W1st, this won’t be a thing. Unless the leader is a moron.
This. We need more of this. Instead of nerfing everything, buff what isn’t up to par.
I do love fleshcraft though 
Are you taking into account condemn offhand damage? Details splits up the MH and OH into 2 separate damage rows. Combining the 2, even as fury condemn does significantly more than 20% of your overall damage.
No it isnt. ( fury warrior )
I just did the maldraxxus world boss before server shutdown and both hands combined were 22% of my total damage for the fight. I was #4 in deeps (top melee) behind 3 balance druids in a 40 man raid.
I also had a 184 ashen juggernaut conduit equipped (increases crit strike of condem) boosting it further.
Its a cov ability that does 30-45% of our damage on a raid boss… thats too much… that means warriors would be such trash without it… other specs do not gain nearly that much from a cov ability.
Isn’t it also the only cov ability that replaces an existing ability?
It replaces Execute. How much of your damage does Execute normally make up without Condemn? Any other warriors that aren’t Venthyr want to chime in? I would but I haven’t run anything of value yet.
Honestly I feel like condemn is a little disappointing performance wise. It doesn’t do drastically more damage than regular execute. It also limits your talents a bit. The biggest thing is using it from 100%-80.
I love pressing it though. I’d probably be better off with spear but it’s just so satisfying. Add a glyph to make execute look like condemn and I don’t think it would be picked half as often.