I was wondering how long it'd take for a white knight to show up in this thread.
Congrats guys we made it to 5 pages this time!
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We get you're an apologist. And he was right, all you did was try to split hairs then tried to /mic when you got called on it.02/14/2018 05:10 PMPosted by Erniemiserwouldnt be hairs to be split if people stuck to facts not exaggerations now would there?
enjoy your evening, im done here.
As you said though, enjoy your evening.
For everyone thinking the the level disparity between two characters in a dungeon never affected XP gains on the low-level character, here's old posts about it:
2010: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/1114791506
2011: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2826193074
2014: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/11582368247
2015: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17347397893
Essentially, if a high-level ran a low-level through a dungeon, the greater the disparity in levels, the less XP the low-level character received. It was this way for years. So yes, this really looks like a bug occurred.
Flame away.
2010: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/1114791506
2011: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2826193074
2014: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/11582368247
2015: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17347397893
Essentially, if a high-level ran a low-level through a dungeon, the greater the disparity in levels, the less XP the low-level character received. It was this way for years. So yes, this really looks like a bug occurred.
Flame away.
All I can say is that I'm glad I dual-boxed 60-90 before this nerf (I purely quested up to level 60). I wouldn't even be leveling yet another alt if I didn't want the heritage armor. At 26 characters at level 100 or higher (10 of them at 110) and a handful more at level 90, I had absolutely no desire to level another character from scratch. I won't be touching this new "leveling" once I get the Nightborne heirloom armor until leveling speed is buffed for veteran players somehow.
I feel like I wasted my gold on the heirloom armor and upgrades as it stands.
I feel like I wasted my gold on the heirloom armor and upgrades as it stands.
02/14/2018 05:26 PMPosted by KekI was wondering how long it'd take for a white knight to show up in this thread.
Congrats guys we made it to 5 pages this time!
So people who don't grab a pitchfork are considered white knights? Gotcha, but hey we made it to 5 pages before white knight was thrown out there!
02/14/2018 04:50 PMPosted by KekThe best part about all of this is it proves these changes had nothing to do with "new players needing a better levelling experience" like we all knew it didn't.
Blizzard just expects players to be as dumb as the people they parade out here to feed us this line of bull every day.
The stealth Raf nerf, removal of XP pots, nerf to looms, on and on... for a better levelling experience, yup.
02/14/2018 04:33 PMPosted by AnderanLogic WAS NOT broken. XP functioned in dungeons with power leveling the way it has FOR YEARS.
This is just PR nonsense. Do tell us how your "xp logic" was doing anything any different than it ever had? You can't and won't because it wasn't.
You just killed power leveling because you don't want people leveling in anything resembling a reasonable amount of time no matter how many times they've done it before or whether or not they've seen your precious precious quests.
I truly hope people will see this crap for what it is and just STOP making alts.
They did a 90% nerf according to my numbers. Was leveling an alt through dungeons on follow with my other account. I was getting 1500 per Elite kills, and 300 for regular trivial trash. Take a break, come back and i am getting 150 per elite and 3 xp per trivial mob.
So its far more than 10% and i would like to know why they had to go and break something that i have been able to do since VANILLA. Use two accounts, put my lobie on follow, and my 110 or my 100,90 or whatever level i was capped at would run the lobie through LEVEL appropriate dungeons. Now, they decide to fix something that was not broken?
Total PR lie! I am so hating this game more and more every day since this FORCED LEGACY SERVERS went live for the ENTIRE PLAYER BASE!
All for the almighty dollar. Never buying BfA now. Was going to buy the dog tonight, now, after this, not happening.
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Hard to believe all the slaps in the face going on. And people dare ask for blues to post more? Seriously?
Whatever.
I'm kinda getting embarrassed being even remotely associated with this "community"
Sigh...
Whatever.
I'm kinda getting embarrassed being even remotely associated with this "community"
Sigh...
02/14/2018 04:19 PMPosted by OrnyxHi all,
From WoW’s earliest days, we’ve always had to take steps to limit experience gains for characters when grouped with someone of a drastically higher level. We recently became aware of a bug introduced in 7.3.5: a side-effect of the vastly expanded creature scaling was causing the logic to break when awarding XP in some situations. Earlier today, we applied a hotfix to creature experience that corrects this issue.
At the same time, we have significantly increased the experience awarded through queuing for random Normal dungeons from Classic through Draenor content. Running dungeons at the appropriate should feel rewarding, whether as a complement to or even an complete alternative to questing.
As always, we appreciate your feedback and will continue to keep a close eye on the pacing of the leveling experience in 7.3.5 and beyond.
Do you think that we don't realize of this? I leveled alts 7 months before this patch and I don't believe in your excuses, I never wanted to complain, but this... The scale level and nerf of exp and looms I tried to keep it up, but now nerfing this you have screwed my RaF time. This changes doesn't make sense.
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02/14/2018 04:19 PMPosted by Ornyx
As always, we appreciate your feedback and will continue to keep a close eye on the pacing of the leveling experience in 7.3.5 and beyond.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20760926413?page=1
That thread I linked is proof that Blizzard does not appreciate feedback.
It has become one of the most commented threads on the forums and a thread that huge deserves something besides a lock or a delete.
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02/14/2018 04:58 PMPosted by Erniemiser
MONTHS since 7.3.5??
I may have included PTR feedback in that statement, even though I said "release." A major error I know, since PTR isn't actually for testing anything anymore.
I am thoroughly disgusted with the lies and utter garbage Blizz has been feeding us lately. This is beyond absurd.
Never mind the PR crap that everybody can see through, why are they implementing changes that tick off/drive away loyal users?
Let's say one person sticks around and plays and plays and plays. Three people who don't enjoy tedious grinds give up and quit until next expansion. So that one player's great gobs of hours in game are more valuable than the 3 lost subs? What kinda math is that? I don't understand it. At all.
C'mon, Blizz. I still wanna love this game, but you're really not helping right now.
Edit: Gah. Engrish.
Never mind the PR crap that everybody can see through, why are they implementing changes that tick off/drive away loyal users?
Let's say one person sticks around and plays and plays and plays. Three people who don't enjoy tedious grinds give up and quit until next expansion. So that one player's great gobs of hours in game are more valuable than the 3 lost subs? What kinda math is that? I don't understand it. At all.
C'mon, Blizz. I still wanna love this game, but you're really not helping right now.
Edit: Gah. Engrish.
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02/14/2018 05:30 PMPosted by Zalayna02/14/2018 04:19 PMPosted by Ornyx
As always, we appreciate your feedback and will continue to keep a close eye on the pacing of the leveling experience in 7.3.5 and beyond.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20760926413?page=1
That thread I linked is proof that Blizzard does not appreciate feedback.
It has become one of the most commented threads on the forums and a thread that huge deserves something besides a lock or a delete.
Oh they appreciate feedback as long as you are part of their echo chamber. If you dare even imply you know better than they do you get ignored.
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02/14/2018 05:29 PMPosted by PoisonberryHard to believe all the slaps in the face going on. And people dare ask for blues to post more? Seriously?
Sorry, but they have created this hornet nests agitation by continuously slapping it with a sledgehammer.
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That would fly, except: I was getting a level per every 2 dungeons yesterday, today I was getting like 25% per dungeon... and that's with an even closer level difference as my 110 is running my 90s level character versus when I was level 60-90 before the nerf.02/14/2018 05:27 PMPosted by KheradinFor everyone thinking the the level disparity between two characters in a dungeon never affected XP gains on the low-level character, here's old posts about it:
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I'm kinda getting embarrassed being even remotely associated within this "community"
Take the advice someone of your nature would say and just leave.
...See how unproductive that it? Saying dumb !@#$ online doesn't get things done. Learn to be constructive.
Everyone, make a ticket just to give your feedback so the GMs have to push it up the line and we can get this reverted at the very least.
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02/14/2018 05:29 PMPosted by PoisonberryI'm kinda getting embarrassed being even remotely associated with this "community"
Take the advice someone of your nature would say and just leave.
...See how unproductive that it? Saying dumb !@#$ online doesn't get things done. Learn to be constructive.
feedback, yeeaaah right. Just hurry up and sell xp boosts like you are probably planning too already. Some of us want a quicker way to level and you seem to be removing any way of doing that.
Only reason i can assume is to sell boosts or an up and coming xp boost item from the store.
Only reason i can assume is to sell boosts or an up and coming xp boost item from the store.
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Basically, Blizzard realized people were getting their heritage armor too fast and they slapped everyone with a nerf.
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