In nearly ALL popular games these days, you have some form of cosmetic enhancement. People pay for all kinds of “skins” in differ games and to not have it is a huge oversight. If you have legitimately looted, picked up + equipped a item, It should be allowed to be xmog’d for your character. Regardless if you are in classic or retail. This prevents overloaded banks of micromanagement that most of us dont want to waste our bank space to hold certain items. This makes the game thrive with giving ppl more to grind for… something worth keeping their character playing to get that next “set” they want.
It’s things like xmog, mount collecting, toy box and other non essential aspects of the game that make the tedious stuff worth grinding and helps to pass the time.
I love leveling up and finding a certain item that has the right color or look that goes with other gear I am getting along the way and make it match or look good together instead of this mis-mash of random gear that doesnt look good.
and why not have a easy want to change looks and cosmetics?
what about their announcement of changing hair styles / barber… that feature in-game didnt come until long after tbc or wotlk yet they are adding that too…
are you a expansion purist or are you trying to make the whole game better over all?
No. Transmog diminishes the prestige of having legendary items, the latest tier set, full current season arena gear, or any rare high value item from group content. You don’t walk into a city and see who the good players are. You don’t go inspecting people salivating over gear. Visual progression of gear over the course of an expansion is lost.
Is it game breaking? No, but you strip out a social aspect of the game that I and many other classic players would value over the occasional mismatching BIS pieces.
Not really. Because in order to wear those items, you have to own them. And some of these sets are just ugly, why not wear the set you earned and show it off?
Doesn’t make sense. If you can’t figure out someone’s gear level by their hp/mp, that’s a you problem.
Of course you have to own those items, hence the prestige of having them and everyone in the world seeing it. And going into a city, and seeing the people who do have it, going up and inspecting, etc.
Saying to look at someone’s hp is hilariously dumb. Nobody is clicking on random people and checking their nameplate, and even if they were it’s not enough to tell you what specific pieces they are wearing.
Unlike you, I can understand the other side on this issue. You don’t want occasional ugly or mismatched BIS pieces which does happen once in a while, or you want to wear your favorite looking tier set from tbc for the rest of time. On the other hand though, you do sacrifice a social and rpg element of the game that myself and many other classic players value. That’s a real thing weather you personally care about it or not.
That’s been a PvP reason people don’t want transmog. Nice try though.
RPG.
Dressing like your own unique character.
Social aspect.
“Oh awesome outfit! Where did you get it?”
These conversations were constantly on Emerald Dream, an RPPVP server, just like Grobbulus you are on. That you actually take part in the RPPVP aspect of it is another question.
It’s a PvP and PvE reason. Ironic thing about your statements is RPers tend to be the type to prefer transmog the most.
Gear loses prestige if you add in transmog, for better or worse. You don’t care about it, fine, but that is what much of the classic audience doesn’t like about it.
I don’t think it will really be a concern. They haven’t budged for each expansions ‘catching new feature’, as they want to keep and retain as many subscriptions as possible.
They definitely won’t release it for Wrath, as they’re already going to struggle to get enough to want to get into Cataclysm.
That makes no sense. How does someone being able to change the appearance away from the ultra-rare item diminish the value of said item. If anything it would make seeing it in the wild somewhat less common which would only add to its prestige.
I don’t? Um… maybe not lately, but when I was new to the game, I sure as heckfire did.
Trust me, plenty of people at the high end of raiding are still going to be showing off their latest acquisitions. It’s human nature.
Changing the appearance doesn’t diminish the value of the item in and of itself and that’s not what I claimed. The prestige around it diminishes though when you cannot see it. You walk through a city, most people xmogged their gear, and you cannot see the people with the current season gear, tier pieces, or rare BIS items. Will a few people show them off? Sure. Will most? No. Evidence? Look what happened in retail. You cannot see what kind of gear anybody has without inspecting them, because all of it is behind a mask.
I played when transmog first released in cataclysm, and most people just xmogged old tbc tier sets for the rest of time. I was one of those people when it first came out and I initially liked it, but later on came to dislike to feature when I realized what was lost. I understand why some people like having transmog, I did at first too, but there is a social aspect of the game that is lost with transmog that I value higher than keeping my t5 set forever.
I’m sorry people whom just sit around and “Salivate” over other people’s gear sounds kinda cringe, and reaallly pathetic imho, if their doing it for the stats.
If they are enjoying an actually tailored put together set of gear that someone put time and energy into, then that makes far more sense.
There’s never a time when your raiding that your gear actually all matches. You might get your 5 peices of teir (Assuming your teir shows all 5 peices, and you can actually wear all 5 peices, because to get the most bang out of your buck many classes can only wear 2 peices at most.) but you will have plenty of other peices that just don’t coordinate and generally will always throw the look off.
But hey, if Blizzard can yank out entire systems that were originally in Wrath, and force large-scale changes on a whim, transmog doesn’t seem nearly as out of the question anymore.
It is interesting hearing the differences of opinion on this topic, but I feel there is a way to help appease both parties to the debate… but I might not have a suggestion how to do it… A couple thoughts come to mind.
Those that dont like xmog = want to see who has what gear by just being near them without inspection etc… this could be solved by some kind of “other” identifying markers, symbol above the head, glow, ‘text’ or other variations of my thinking…
It sound important enough of a issue for many people on both sides of the isle to help it work for both ppl…
individual expression is a huge part of irl and in-game where cosmetics are concerned. people pay millions of dollars on custom “cosmetics” in LOTS of games. to not have that in WoW ruins a “attractive” quality and you dont want to lose playerbase over something that huge of a deal. This also adds to immersion for those making their customizations and trying to express themselves with their outfit / gear.
I do see some of the benefits in knowing exactly what gear ppl have + weapons equiped etc… especially in pvp as you trying to kill them… certain weapons gear means xyz… but if you could replace those with some kind of other identifying markers that would replace it… maybe that would be a alternative other than current choice “xmog or no xmog”
