WW Monk has the most annoying PVP mechanics in the game

aoe stun on a 15 sec cd sounds equally degenerate

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Make it a single target stun then.

granted but you can no longer move while channeling it

Then single doesn’t make sense if we’re going back to wod/mop version then.

it kinda does since everybody had their stuns changed / reduced. Having an aoe stun on half the cd of kidney is nuts. The spell is rotational too so even less reason for FOF to have the stun

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yeah fof shouldnt have a stun or the parry. WW should get something else for a compromise tho

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Always has been, even when it use to be in mop-legion when it did stun.

But then if a monk was just constantly fof stunning then they would be putting people on dr for nothing.
You would have monks holding fof longer instead of firing it off constantly.

knowing blizzard - if anything changes its going to be a dot baked into their buttons. I expect they’d do something similar to frenzied assault from feral or the marksman thing that leaves a bleed.

Defensively monk should have an ability that cost chi that gives an active buff they have to manage themselves that reduces dmg or something.
That way they have to pick between dmg and survivability.

pretty sure that you “need” to use it at some point for whirling dragon punch, it has a bunch of CDR / reset possibilities. I think Yossarrion is right and it shouldn’t be on FOF if anything did change. I miss old game design when classes had soul but just going back to old FOF wouldn’t work in todays wow

The only reason it was removed in bfa beta was because monks were complaining about not being able to cast fof whenever they wanted in pvp because they were constantly putting people on immune dr due to the new mechanic with FoF.

WW is awful this expac, played it for the first time s2 DF. Class was fun and skillful, sky reach was awesome. It feels horrible and and unfun now. Que into frost or arcane mite as well just leave the game

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There is a contradiction here.

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Oooh a ww hate thread? Count me in!

ever heard of crit?

take this thread down now :rage:

I love my monk, how dare you hate on my enlightenedness

only 18 hundo xp players complain about ww, go next.

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WW is ruining the game, such an oppressive spec.

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they gota to nerf this class (ww) for sure