Just so we’re clear, that’s my character, always crack me up to do this on discord.
Couldn’t resist doing it here. 
Dude, WoW is not a skill game.
Don’t gaslight yourself into taking pride on it.
The only skill it can develop is the ability to communicate efficiently between people IF you do group content.
There’s also some managing skills lessons that can be taken from taking care of a guild and organizing raid.
But that’s beyond the game itself.
It’s not unfair, nobody gives a damn, the PVE part is not a PVP game.
Another class having something doesn’t take anything from the class you enjoy playing.
You don’t play against other players in a raid or dungeon, you play with them.
They tune every spec to do loosely the same damage regardless.
Not fair would be to have specs that do sub par damage and not getting invited on the back of some twisted sense that they shouldn’t get to participate because they aren’t difficult enough.
Because that’s what would happen.
If they were to correlate ease of play with damage, you’d get spec that can never achieve to get the hardest content done because they would literally not have the throughput to get through the content.
This is a take that is beyond stupid.
WoW is a large appeal game for it’s genre, that would be the dumbest decision to make gaming wise and business wise.
Alienating THE MOST played class (not spec) has to be up-there in the category of the most self-defeating argument one could make.
Let’s all be glad you could never get a job there
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? Templar is mad easy to use. You use wake of ashes, then you use hammer and you keep the buff up to let the hammers drop, and keeping the buff up is literally just using your skills that you already use.
Templar is so easy to use.
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Dunno I lose 200k dps on templar
I think that is just because of tuning. Templar is vastly easier to use than herald, just because with herald you have the thought of where to put the dot on. An ally or an enemy or yourself. Templar is literally just set and forget.
then your fundamentally doing something wrong
*you’re
Talk about being fundamentally wrong…
Oh so on top of sucking at this game to the point you cant even do normal you also make terrible decisions.
Yea you are a troll, and a bad one. Also funny since i regularly beat fury warriors even when yalls class is better. Get good.
8/8 norm and 4/8 heroic so far. This is an alt (this expansion, but usually my main.) Also - like I said, I’m not fury, I’m arms. L2Read.
Cuz your class is literally braindead. Crazy you’re too much of a downy to make that correlation.
Like i said you chose the wrong spec.
Also i used to main war. Your class is braindead to play. Dont act like warrior is a hard class, cus its not at all.
Do you also go to hunter forums and complain like a child? You know since you can literally macro their entire rotation?
Ladies, both specs are pretty braindead. You are not chess players here, you are knuckle draggers arguing over who drags the most knuckles… You are doing us gamers proud, carry on.
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hi im back, we fell from 3rd overall damage to 16th, and from 9th to 11th on damage to bosses, according to warcraftlogs.
are we still good on the nerfs or do we need to be nerfed more?
i said that we were going to fall hard, but there were a lot of people here that didn’t consider instrument and said everything was fine and we deserved to be nerfed.
Are we still having the same opinion now?
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Im not the one who came into another classes forum to call it a braindead spec lol.
I never said ret was hard. Im just defending my spec against a peraon who plays a equally easy spec.
People who said we are fine dont actually understand retribution or balance.
I said we were gonna drop quite a bit and got called a doomer. Welp guess i was right rofl.
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well, there are some people here that couldn’t even read the actual data from warcraftlogs, so thats why i’m not surprised that they agreed with the nerfs.
i called beforehand, nerfing ret on the first week of content like blizzard usually do is stupid cause they never consider instrument, but other argument was: but we’re scaling bro! we scale now! yeah, we are scaling, better than DF at least, but is it going to be enough? seems like everyone else is scaling much harder.
now i guess we sit and wait for bandaid fixes like the consistent 3% overall damage buffs we got on DF, even tho our problem with single target will not be fixed with just those.
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They need to revert the beta ST nerfs and give a small buff to templar HOL.
After that we can see where we sit.
I honestly wish they would delete instruments. That ability has always done more harm than good. Blizz devs are just too hard headed tho.
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completely agree, just remove the damn thing from the game, nobody would miss it, it only inflates our dps on terrible attempts bloating the logs and giving unreal data
also i don’t know why they removed retribution aura and kept instrument, removing instrument and keeping ret aura would be so much better
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It really bothered me that they removed retribution aura, meanwhile dh and monk both kept their 5% damage buff.
After years ret finally had a real reason to be brought. Only for them to delete one of the best additions to the class after 1 expansion. I just dont get it.
Fully agree, they deleted the wrong ability.
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guess blizzard reasoning at its finest, first get rid of our buffs, then nerf auras utility, then on the upside create a very cool iteration of an aura for retribution which felt very nice in addition to other classes passive buffs… new expansion, remove the aura 
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i mean, everyone who knew ret historically and mechanically knew this was gonna happen. if people still coping about scaling are just. nah.
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