Wow vs ff14

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I’ve never even heard of that but how does this have to do with being “offensive” like changing the word 'slave" in game?
Seems more like a request to add something.

Wanting a male bunny character and wanting fat, ugly, sharia covered characters that you race changed and made gay is different than adding a gender to a race. Which is just an addon, nothing else.

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One thing I really did enjoy about FFXIV was how little they cared about letting folks dress up in ridiculous outfits.

I miss my yellow bikini with chocobo head while tankin’ combo.

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Maybe they just don’t like seeing bunny ear sticking out of helmet, because attaching helmet isn’t really a hard thing to do.

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Lack of addon support hurts FF14 imo.

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There are a lot of mods that make Viera/Hrothgar friendly versions of hats. There are even hats that replace the head and show Viera ears sticking out (the totally not abyss watcher helm from Gauntlet, for an example.)

I’m not exactly sure why they just don’t model all hats to work for the new races after seeing the pushback. Not going through years of models is fine knowing their original intention, but everything after that? It makes you laugh.

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Didn’t FFXIV release a while after WoW? They should’ve had it planned out when they started.

Or just let em clip through the hat in the cheapest way possible (like the eyebrows).

wtf?

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There’s a video by a former Diablo dev where he said as a developer you shouldn’t accept anything from a fan, simply because it might lead to a problem later, considering SE is a Japanese country, their policy might be even tighter than that.

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It did, but that doesn’t mean every aspect of everything was planned out in advance. There is a reason why they don’t add new races at the rate WoW does. Every race has it’s own unique animations and emotes top to bottom. Making a new race in FFXIV is several orders of magnitude more involved than in WoW before you even get to the way the armor fits on them.

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Oh, yes for sure don’t ever do that as a dev. I was just saying that people doing mods as a hobby are also baffled with this insistence on not allowing the two races to wear hats.

Sure, some have clipping issues, but my very unique, made specifically for, Viera hair clips into my entire torso when doing my very unique and totally not on an Elezen rig animations.

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I don’t understand. Every race in WoW has two sets of unique animations, one for each sex, and some unique emotes as well (/silly, /flirt, etc). Is the FFXIV dev team magnitudes smaller or something?

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Every piece of gear is a body replacer. So you’re not just putting on a pair of pants, you just put on a whole new pair of legs.

That’s why the Nier pants get to inflate your butt. So when they add gear they have to model it for every single race individually.

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I tried getting into FF14. The hyper linear story and slow game play turned me away. The game looks beautiful, customization options are really nice, the class system makes it very easy to reroll without having to redo a bunch of dumb content but really none of it matters. The gameplay just doesn’t feel good. Everything is slow and clunky.

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I’ve played both games and still prefer WoW, even in the current messed up state we have.

However, I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that there are things I enjoyed about FFXIV…to name a few…

  1. Fates, Duties, Hunting log- FFXIV has a much better questing and world event system.
  2. Access to all jobs/classess on a single character- this is a huge quality of life improvement, since you don’t have to log off and on to alts just to transfer things.
  3. Sprint- fast movement shouldn’t be restricted by class.
  4. DNC/BRD/AST- Having classes that boost the performance of others, without sacrificing personal performance is good… spells like Focus Magic and Kindred Spirits are dumb, since your personal performance is affected, depending on who you give them to.
  5. Every class is a DPS class- a tank is just a thicc dps and a healer is just a supportive dps…we have this to an extent, but it’s not as emphasized as it is in FFXIV.
  6. MSQ- it’s great to have a main story that gives tons of XP.
  7. GCBTW- not a lot of flamers or griefers, the community is mostly friendly

There are a few things I absolutely hate in FFXIV too…

  1. localization- screw having to read a pirate accent, esp when quest information is given in the form of a conversation, and not as quest text…also, whoever wrote for Urianger needs to get fired, reading his lines are an absolute pain.
  2. voice acting- i play with JP audio because the NA audio is horribly over-acted and hammy.
  3. mounts- you need to dismount to talk to people…and there’s no option to auto-dismount.
  4. aesthetic- i greatly dislike steampunk
  5. MSQ- some main story quests are a down right chore, and you can get stuck in a 30min talky bit right when you get into the heat of battle…while some people say it improves immersion, i say it hampers gameplay.
  6. GCBTW- the “casual elitism” in FFXIV is down right disgusting. It’s nice to be friendly and helpful, but some folks will report you if you do something as innocuous as ask a tank to pull more mobs or for a healer to dps when the party is topped up.
  7. transmog- WoW has an infinitely superior transmog system
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It’s different in FFXIV, not only their emote is fully animated instead of just /e text. Classes also have different animations for each gender.

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It’s not anime inspired at all. Its RPG inspired yes but not anime. Something anime inspired would be like Genshin Impact despite it being made in China.

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Oh crap :neutral_face: So a hat would be a seperate ‘head’ as well?

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Before this expansion, this was basically my main complaint about WoW. I stuck with it because I had 15 years of history and I actually played everything and knew the story. But, the fact that everything becomes irrelevant when a new expansion hits has always bothered me.

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Sure would! Which kicks the wheels out from under the “It’s a unique skull” counter. Every single skull is a variation of the same model for design ease, with exception to Hrothgar.

They have to model each head piece individually, but recently they don’t even seem like it’s worth it to cut holes in the hat for Miqote so :woman_shrugging:

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Ah yeah it’s for Korean region.