WoW should be F2P if they going to add more and more microtansactions

It’s absolutely getting ridiculous. They expect more money being paid to offset their cost cutting all while providing a very under performing expansion with more bugs since Vanilla. Horrible story as well.

It’s a joke and their greed is going to be their downfall.

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Its common sense that token are PTW, Cant fault the greens though, they have to go to bat for blizzard

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Aha now you’re assuming. In response to you I’m not talking about mtx, I’m talking about how wrong you are regarding the health of player numbers. A better idea would be to play a game that isn’t diving in quality, but that’s just my opinion. Maybe actually read this topic to see that majority of posts are also sick and tired of the direction WoW is heading in terms of MTX.

Yes, I suppose the cost cutting and forcing devs to leave has nothing to do with Blizzard and Activision Blizzard being the same entity. I think its funny also that apparently Youtube videos relaying REAL NEWS is somehow not a credible source. Seeing as you play on Moonguard, I think you’ve had one too many visits to the Goldshire Inn with that level of logic.

And what exactly are they “winning” in an mmorpg? They get shinier gear and get invited to groups to get more shiny gear? They get an achievement…to do what with, exactly?

I bought a run last xpac to get that pretty mount but I had the gold, I needed more mounts to get the mount achievement to get another mount. Which does nothing to Your gameplay. Doesn’t do much to mine either but it was a personal goal to reach. That’s MY gameplay.

None of this really matters at all in the whole scheme of things. We’re just playing a freakin video game here.

You know wow used to be linear game… it was pretty clear who killed the last boss in early expansions.

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What exactly are you winning in any game for that matter?

What, logic coming back to bite you now?

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The topic is about microtransactions, not the overall health of the game. So you stated, and I quote:

So given the context of the topic, you implied that ‘plenty of people were fed up with microtransactions, including your friends/guild who are now gone’ and now that I’ve called you out for your false equivalecy, you’re trying to change the narrative by saying that you were referring to the overall ‘health of the game’.

Cost cutting is normal in the games industry, especially when you’re spending big, and making less, as Blizzard is right now. This was something that was bound to happen, I’m honestly surprised it didn’t happen sooner. Also zero employees have been ‘forced’ to leave the company. Incentives were offered, and incentives were taken. If someone chooses to take advantage of an incentive offered by a company, that is not something that is ‘forced’.

Nice ad-hominem, stay on topic, my realm of choice has nothing to do with this discussion.

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TIL gear does nothing in WoW. Wish someone wouldve told me sooner

None of this really matters at all in the whole scheme of things. We’re just playing a freakin video game here.

It was so good when WoW was more than that. Servers were super populated, everything you could get was in-game, you were known on your server if you were a really good player and the game itself kept you immersed. Good times.

What did I miss? Nothing hidden here.

And that matters how? Memories and stories to tell to new users? I’ve been here since 2005 and I like how the game changes every xpac yet has the same elements to keep it comfortable. If it didn’t change, I would’ve quit mid-TBC when the farming to make gear felt like a job. Achievement system actually gave me more things to do.

The linear game was fine when you had tons of time to play to max your gear and kill all the raids but is that how you want to spend your game time now?

If you’re a gamer, you play games. That’s your win.

I have one thing to say. Seven words. I don’t understand why people defend companies.

Cost cutting is a good thing? That’s a new one. I’m curious to know hjow long you’ve played Blizzard games for, as they were once known as a company who didn’t care about money as much as they do now. It was all about the game first and foremost, money came later. They took their time making amazing games, including WoW in 2004. You should know based off their past history that this isn’t a great thing for Blizzard.

You do know incentives are there to convince people to leave right? It’s a way to get people to leave without forcing them to leave. if I thought you were a bad worker but couldn’t fire you, so I said “hey anyone who wants to leave I’ll give you $10000 for example” you would likely jump on that. They knew people would jump at incentives as a legal way of cutting down on staff and saving money. The way you type it out sounds so naive.

Lastly, its true your realm has nothing to do with discussion but it was low hanging fruit let’s be honest.

I don’t do philosophy I work for a living. you asked how it mattered and well I explained it to you. As for how I choose to spend my time I am returning to classic.

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For that sweet sweet MVP status

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I play games for a challenge and the story.

Not to pay more money simply because I want shiny item.

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I don’t defend the companies that make my video game entertainment - I just pay them to deliver a game that I play. They’re a business like any other that’s working to make money to keep working. If I don’t like their product, I don’t buy from them again. That’s how the free market economy works.

I’m not going to demand that they make stuff I like. I’ll just go find something else I like. See, it’s my own choice.

As far as WoW goes, nothing in the game is stuff I would quit over. There’s other things to do, always - and when that stops, I’m going elsewhere. So far, I’m finding enough to do. That’s all I need from Any video game.

If you don’t want to go bankrupt, yes, it is a good thing. How many games can a bankrupt company develop? Zero. As for how long I’ve been playing Blizzard games? Been playing since Warcraft 2 released back in 1995.

And that is still not being ‘forced’. Also if Blizzard really was desperate to save money? They would have just fired them outright. That is their legal right, they could have easily closed down their Cork facility and fired everyone there without any severance package or safety net, which would have saved them a lot of money, but, they didn’t. In fact, they elected to spend money, giving those 100 employees who chose to leave the company an entire years salary for doing so. Assuming they got paid 50k a year for their job? That’s half a million dollars that Blizzard is spending on people that no longer work for them.

Also that incentive offer that those employees in Cork took? It’s been around for a while. It’s not a new thing, plenty of employees have taken the offer over the years, you’ve just never heard about it because it wasn’t news worthy. Apparently expanding the program to areas of the company that aren’t getting as much activity though is not only news worthy, but also scummy.

It was for a while, but the mods are on top of things. :+1:

The items they sell in the store are pets and mounts and other cosmetic items. None of them are shiny items that you Need to have. I buy cute pets and mounts for my count cuz I’m a casual collector. Nothing I buy does Anything for my gameplay.

There’s nothing wrong with me spending my money on crap in-game (or a new $37 lipstick from Nordstrom) cuz that’s my choice.

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Nobody is telling you not to buy the store stuff. You do what you want with your money. People are opjecting to the slippery slope that is MTXs. paying to win is already in the game along with cosmetics, some just dont want to be at a disadvantage because they dont have as much disposable income as others

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