Except there is. You just refuse to use it.
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Youâre getting an edge over others by using real cash. Thatâs an edge, the edge over players doesnât have to be gear, it could literelly be anything in the game.
Youâre therefore paying to win in some way.
Like buying a rock on the AH with gold you got from a token?
If thatâs your interpretation of winning than yea.
Okay, letâs entertain that thoguht for a moment. How do you win at wow?
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There is no edge being gained.
Person A earns gold in-game.
Person B earns gold from WoW tokens.
Person A and Person B can both buy gear from the AH.
Nothing is being âwonâ. Therefore there is no âpay to winâ occurring.
Try again when you can use the commonly accepted definition of the phrase instead of whatever gobbledygook youâve slapped together.
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Yea there is, youre using real money, to get in game currency, that in itself is an advantage.
Spending $200 for a piece of gear thats irrelevant in 3 months is a really bad advantage.
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How is it an advantage?
Person A has 5 million gold from doing stuff in-game.
Person B has 5 million gold from buying WoW tokens.
Person B hasnât âwonâ anything. Theyâve spent real money just to catch up with Person A. They have no advantage over Person A.
Therefore WoW is not pay to win.
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This argument will go nowhere if you guys canât even agree on the definition of the point youâre arguing.
For the record, per the commonly accepted definition, Glyn, you are incorrect.
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Are you serious? Itâs legit using real money to get in game currency. Thatâs an advantage. Why is this so hard to understand?
Which is by design for the people who keep arguing that WoW is pay to win. They know they canât win an argument while using the standard definition. So they have to invent some overly vague âdefinitionâ in order to keep pretending to have a point.
There is no pay to win situation, other then the imaginary one inside your mind OP.
WoW is not pay 2 win, it has never been pay 2 win and likely never will be.
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Ok, show me where it says that pay 2 win is exclusively that definition stated above.
Because you have yet to show a single solitary âadvantageâ over someone who plays the game. Therefore no âpay to winâ is occurring.
Try again when you can use the standard definition of âpay to winâ.
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edit Obviously this is directed at GLyndenorn.
BUT ⌠If you buy something with that real money that gives you an advantage over people who just play the game, can you actually win anything? Will you then be able to play with ⌠say, Method? You would be comparably geared, but would they take you and and you be a part of the WINNING group? Or would you still just be Glyndenorn, the one who went broke thinking he could pay to win? Unless you have something that NO ONE else can get in game that you purchased with real money, then you donât have pay to WIN.
Iâve told you this already, multiple times, that using real money to get an advantage over other players is pay 2 win.
You havenât shown any concrete advantage that is being obtained. You just keep waving your arms and saying thereâs some vague âsomethingâ being won.
Notice I said commonly accepted. Because its not exclusive or official⌠just common or accepted among the general population. If youâre going to rebut, then at least read what Iâm saying.
Per the COMMONLY ACCEPTED definition, WoW isnât P2WâŚyet.