No it’s not.
Asmongold made a big deal about it, that’s why.
The WoW token does not make WoW “pay to win”. Not even remotely close.
You can earn gold entirely through in-game means. There’s no real restriction on how much gold you can earn either.
So both the person buying the WoW token and the person farming gold in-game have equal opportunity in buying corrupted gear from the AH.
An actual, real, example of “pay to win” would be if there was some item or buff that could only be acquired with real money from the store. Buying an item level 500 weapon from the store would be pay to win. Buying a 10% damage buff from the store would be pay to win. Just getting gold is not.
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It’s literally paying to get an advantage over others that have to work for the gold. That’s paying 2 win. You just said it yourself.
The distinction in pay to win, which is the part that eludes you, is that it must be unobtainable through normal gameplay.
You can both end up with the same amount of gold. Therefore there is no advantage and no “winning”. Which means no “pay to win”.
Try again.
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People are forgetting that this is also a drop, and not something solely out of a cash shop.
So who ends up winning:
- The guy who gets it as a random drop while farming
- The guy who spend $200 on tokens for a piece of gear thats irrelevant next patch.
That’s one definition of pay 2 win, there’s others, the one i’m talking about is getting an edge over other players with real money, which is literally what wow tokens does.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
You’re not at an advantage if they can get the same for free.
Yea you are if you pay cash. The advantage is you don’t have to work for it.
Seems like a bad deal to me
Just because you’ve come up with a definition doesn’t mean anyone has to take your definition seriously.
Inventing random definitions for phrases that already have commonly accepted definitions is not the basis for a good argument. If you have to redefine words and phrases in order to have a point, then you need to go back to the drawing board.
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Really? pay 2 win is commonly accepted ONLY as that ONE definition?
Yes, that it needs to be unobtainable through normal gameplay and is objectively better than anything that drops in the game.
That’s not an advantage over someone who’s just playing the game. That means they’re not “winning” anything over the person who ignores the shop. Which means there’s no “win” in “pay to win”. So even with the most insanely vague definition you can come up with, WoW is still not pay to win.
Yeah. That’s how it works. It’s like arguing that cats are also dogs because you feel like “dog” should have multiple definitions.
Yea it is, it’s less hours spent on grinding for the money.
There’s still nothing being “won” over the person who just plays the game.
The person paying with real cash has an advantage over the person who’s working in game for the currency. Why is this so hard to understand? They legit pay for a token that gives them the gold that could take hours to grind for, that’s an advantage of paying 2 win. That’s just 1 example.
Because they don’t have any actual advantage. What is so hard to understand about that?
Person A has millions of gold from playing the game. They’ve never even looked at the shop. They can buy whatever BOEs they want.
Person B has millions of gold from buying WoW tokens. They can buy whatever BOEs they want.
Person B does not have any in-game advantage over Person A.
Try again.