"WoW is not a solo RPG" takes are why we need soloization

Let me know when it becomes a COOPMMORPG. Until then you can play with or without people. If leveling is a solo experience then the solo lifestyle has always been intended.

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Lol your argument is because you cant have the fun you want to have, go look at all these other things you dont want to do.

And that’s fine. No problem with that. To each his own. But this idea, expressed in some of the comments in this thread, that “MMO” means group play is erroneous. It only means that you have the OPTION of grouping up with others if you so CHOOSE. It in no way excludes solo play.

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The people who are crying like this are the same people who vote-kick a new player from a normal dungeon because they’re not going at the tempo they want them to go.

Giving solo players an opportunity to actually experience parts of the game is a good thing, full-stop.

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Show me the mandate. Not YOUR opinion that it’s mandated; your opinion is worth no more than anyone else’s. Show me the mandate. Take your time; I’ll wait.

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Yes, very true. The minute they designed instanced content with multiple player roles, they encouraged group play. But came no where near mandating it, as some in this thread like to pontificate.

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uhhh the multiplayer part lol

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I’ve said thins since the 1st add-on was made. You’re going to have an entire generation that doesn’t know how to do things without help. The game has many sound, text and visual clues to not need any add-on. It’s just people get hyper-focused on how much damage or heals they are doing per encounter. And it’s the add-ons the developers have had to fight against changing how content is played out in dungeons and raids.

Taking this current event going on for the anniversary, DBM literally tells people to move when something bad is about to happen and yet people don’t. They just stay in it and over tax the healers to heal through the outgoing damage which can and has caused unwanted deaths.

I don’t have anything against people that do dungeon, raid or solo content. I come here to play the content, quests and story. I do take issue when someone tells me that the way I play in a MMO is wrong. Most people have forgotten what a MMO is about, Massively Multiplayer On-line which just means lots of people playing the game at the same time as you. It doesn’t mean you have to play with people, just that there will be others online with you.

Some of us would probably play solo player games, but those games are becoming fewer by the years unless you’re a console player. When I grew up, all PC Games had more solo player campaigns and limited on-line. Now it feels like more PC games have no campaign game and usually only on-line content (I know this is probably wrong but for the games that interest me don’t have off-line content much anymore).

Exactly this. When I came back a month before Shadowlands, I loved to play Restoration shaman. After I left Exile Reach and went into my 1st dungeon, I switched to Enhancement and stop doing dungeons unless I am forced to do them for story content, and even then, I might wait months before I do the dungeon.

Exactly, if you’re not in a guild that is super-active then you have to LFD, LFR or PvP, you might have to wait for 30+ minutes at times for a group depending on your class.

Had this happen with some guild’s I’ve been in. Otherwise, you don’t fit in the guild / group cliques.

If it’s anything like Ever Quest, it won’t replace a truly competent player. It will just assist the player to do all the content that the developers put into the game. Not everyone has play times that fit with people on-line at the time to do said content. This just helps those people, someone like me that has weird playtime hours. Also, the NPC won’t call me an idiot when I am learning the content. I just end up paying for his and my repairs.

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hold on now, you said you play solo yet you raided? thats a bit confusing

Yup.

I don’t have time for newbies or bad players. My gaming experience is about ME, and you don’t pay my sub

From the same mouth as:

Why don’t people want to be more social like back in the day?

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Multiplayer just means other players are in the world, there has been multiplayer games that lets you work separately from others. Or you can choose to work with them. The idea of multiplayer is to be playing the same game as someone else to add a sense of community. But not all people in a community need to interact with each other directly, communal aspects and contributions come in different ways in an MMo this may be by the auction house, just being in the world making it feel more alive, or general communication over chat channels. These aspects in of themselves make it multiplayer, the actual grouping to accomplish the same task? that just another optional aspect.

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Game’s almost 20 years old. A lot of people have moved onto other things.

It happens.

lol…they dont know the difference in ‘mmo’s’ between RPG mmos and PvP mmo’s lol
The latter you have NO CHOICE but to interact with players as THAT IS the reason you are there.
WoW ISNT that. lol

Even PvP MMo’s can be played solo… it makes people angry but you can do it. People do it all the time wonder off to kill the other team on their own doing their own objectives and disregarding their team mates entirely. That said, that type of behavior I agree is a little unspirited of the game and ruins the experience as it hinders your teammates.

you have to love how the connections THEY make are supposedly THE connections that matter.
That guy has NO CLUE WHY the subs dropped anymore than the rest of us do. lol.
Hes got to make it about HIS pet peeve though, so he can pretend to have a point to make in here.

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No, you are just being nitpicky.

The only pvp games Ive played honestly is the ones where the only goal is to kill the other team/other player. There hasnt been anything else literally do to other than that.
but then, Ive had a pretty narrow list of games Ive played too. I only like certain ones.

More like they are challenging your personal concept of what an MMo means. There is nothing that states an MMo is, or has to mean that everyone is always working together or that people feel forced to be teammates. It literally does not say that by any definition of the word. The way you interpret it may, but the actual definition does not. Which opens the idea to be challenged.

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Some of you make it look like the act of saying “Hello” to someone else online is a traumatic experience. You don’t know how many times I have said “hi” to someone in chat, ended up as a multi-hour adventure (the best word I can come up with). And it’s usually that someone spends most of the time soloing by himself, and has social anxieties.

Sometimes a /smile and a /wave works wonders.

Yup, Nitpicky… almost to the point of being neurotic.