Yeah, I’m not arguing that. I’m arguing that you shouldn’t base your invites on spec alone. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
I’m a solo/casual player, and I’ve definitely seen it (contempt towards this kind of player) in the forums.
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I think very few people actually do this. I wouldn’t exclude someone on the basis of being a survival hunter alone and if you took that from my statement you’re wrong.
It is a factor though and for good reasons. Most groups would rather have a rogue for example for shroud. A warrior for shout. Other classes simply bring more options.
The basis of this thread is contempt for players that the OP doesn’t like or agree with their play style.
Oh look, another person who thinks not wanting to be bad at the game = elitist.
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This is what you get when you start outlawing words like “Skilled” in the work place.
It bleeds into culture and now everyone is expecting the rest of the world to bend over backwards to make them feel successful.
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My dude, I was already asked twice today what my spec was before I got invited (because I play elemental rather than enhancement) and my Survival Hunter friend has immense troubles trying to join a group. He will straight get kicked out of a pug raid or mythic+ if the leader finds out he is survival a lot of the time.
If you’re just trying to do a mythic 10 or a heroic raid, it doesn’t matter because 1) you probably already have those options in your raid/party and 2) the content is still easy enough for him to clear it, but the stigma hurts more than the actual performance of the spec itself.
And, again, this is because melee & ranged are different roles.
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Possibly, but I was responding to the poster who said s/he had rarely seen anti-casual sentiments expressed on the forums.
Not at all, the groups were near empty, try again lmao
All you do is go “oh they are melee, so its impossible that they get denied on their spec, all I have to do is point out that their melee” nice deflection man
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I have a survival hunter friend that just afk’s through raids and nobody says anything about it and he always gets the drops.
SeE wUt i DiD tHuR?
And I have another anecdote for the next thing you say too.
People.
Don’t.
Want.
Melee.
That.
Don’t.
Bring.
Utility.
They.
Want.
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Yeah you made a bad faith argument about performance rather than spec and thought it was a dunk.
Look I don’t have any data to support my case but in my experience that wasn’t what happened at all.
You’re not exactly arguing against the elitism premise that is the point of the thread in the first place. The content is already clearable regardless of which melee you bring.
Who cares what other people think?
Good essay though, but I scrolled right to the tldr.
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Found a screenshot of someone in trade saying one time that survival hunters are great.
Case closed there isn’t any elitism against SV hunters.
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This thread in a nutshell.
Hey WoW has an elitism issue. Here are some examples.
“Yeah that’s because it’s not 100% optimal to do it, cry more.”
Lol
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It’s not elitism to want to have the best chance of success.
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You’re looking at spec and not actual performance of the player. So yes, you are.